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Not exactly an NFA discussion, but...
Dan W:
I would like to pick the brains of some of our NFA owners in regards to SBR's vs AR15 pistols.
I am thinking about a new build that would be a hybrid of sorts, specifically an AR15 5.56 pistol, 12.5" barrel. My idea is to build the pistol incorporating a Law Tactical folding stock, and shockwave blade stabilizer by KAK, which would get overall length over 26" and allow for use of vertical foregrip.
The use of the VFG is allowed on a AR pistol if OAL is 26" or longer, as the legal designation (as I understand it) becomes what is know as a non NFA "firearm".
My goals...
Compact package
Reduced muzzle blast
Reduced noise compared to shorter barrel
Future suppressor host
avoid NFA stamp and tax
So, I ask you experienced NFOA SBR and AR pistol users to school me. Is this build a viable project or should I stick with a pinned and welded 14.5" upper and forgo the suppressor as I am loathe to pay any SBR tax and am not really wanting to spend what it takes to do both an SBR and a suppressor
A suppressor would be more acceptable to me because I could use it on multiple rifles
TIA
PC13:
If you're only wanting to spend one tax fee, get a suppressor, for the reason you mentioned (multiple weapon use).
Any pistol you shoulder (goofy brace or not) now becomes an SBR. Not being able to shoulder a rifle makes it pretty useless in my opinion, especially when you hang a pound of suppressor off the end of it. I have several SBR and 14.5" and 16" guns. Recoil becomes sharper the shorter/lighter you go, so not having the legal option to shoulder a pistol makes them a novelty, in my opinion.
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RobertH:
i can't stand AR pistols. i've held them, but they were never comfortable to me. and now you can't shoulder them because of people writing the ATF wanting definitions or explanations. "Don't shoulder me, bro!" also a firearm under 26" is a pistol and vertical fore grip on that pistol turns it to an AOW, which many people already know.
if you wanted to spend only 1 tax, buy a suppressor. SilencerHQ can fix you up nicely. i suggest a 308 can. it can be used on a ton of calibers. i've never shot in a house before, but i've shot in several indoor ranges and using a suppressor is really nice to have in a tight, concussive area. even shooting a .223 indoors would really wreck your hearing. but you are adding 6 or 7 inches on to your barrel, which can be awkward.
also, with 41F going into effect, you'll have to get photos/fingerprints and CLEO notification no matter if you buy as a Trust, LLC or individual. those new rules go into effect in July 13th. So, get a trust and do it soon!
on final thought.... what if you use your suppressed gun for actual self defense. pray that you don't get characterized as a wannabe mobster assassin. because we all know suppressors are for mobsters and Navy Seals.
Dan W:
--- Quote from: RobertH on February 20, 2016, 03:49:43 PM ---i can't stand AR pistols.
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Seems like people either love em or hate em, but I have not ever been around when one was being fired, so I have no frame of reference
Dan W:
--- Quote from: PC13 on February 20, 2016, 01:35:56 PM --- I have several SBR and 14.5" and 16" guns
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Which length barrel do you find most useful? All my rifles are 16-18"
ps I shot that BCM pencil barrel again today sighting in a new Meprolight TruDot RDS and It brings a smile to my face every time :)
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