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bkoenig:
Just my .02 :
Once you go SBR, you'll wonder why you never had one before.  My 11.5" is my all around go-to rifle.  It's so incredibly handy, even suppressed.  And with a 1-6.5 scope I've shot it out to 400 yards with acceptable accuracy.

I've actually never used a suppressor on a 16" upper, but it seems like it would be a tad unwieldy.

Hardwood83:
I'm with BK on this, shorter is better. SBR's & bullpups for the win!

The only 'full-size' guns I utilize a suppressor on now days are when hunting (18" barrel 6.8spc AR or 16".308 Ruger Scout bolt action).

Also, Dan what you described isn't pushing any limits, it's following the letter of the (idiotic) law. Lots of people (including me) have built an AR pistol to use until a tax stamp arrives. Perfectly legitimate.

Dan W:

--- Quote from: Hardwood83 on February 23, 2016, 01:24:32 PM ---I'm with BK on this, shorter is better.
--- End quote ---

No concerns over lost velocity and terminal ballistics? IMHO 10.5" is the bare minimum for 5.56.

Maybe I am misreading your intent

PC13:
There are ballistics handicaps involved, but not noticeable at all inside reasonable distances.  I've shot my 10.5 and 11.5 out to 300 yards, but don't really consider them to be well suited for long range target shooting.   That's not really the point of them.  If you're shooting prairie dogs at 600 yards, sure, there's some lost performance.  That's not to say they can't do it, just that they don't excel in that role.  Where they excel is HD type close quarters defensive uses.   They REALLY excel indoors, in confined spaces.   I agree 100% with the above posts regarding length.  Rifle length is the one thing in a man's life where shorter is better.  :)

The difference between a 16" and an 11.5" barrel is phenomenal when working around corners or inside rooms/hallways. 




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Dan W:
I am not concerned with targets beyond 100 yards with a pistol, more concerned with fragmentation and lethality of 5.56 ammo at reduced velocity as well as reduced dwell time of the carbine gas system causing operational reliability to suffer.

I am going to set 10.5" as my minimum with 11.5-12.5" desired

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