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Mntnman:
--- Quote from: feralcatkillr on February 24, 2016, 11:32:11 AM ---You guys can keep dreamin' about Cruz and Carson all you want. I really like those guys too. But the only question really remaining in this election is who are Trump and Hillary going to choose as their running mates.
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I hope he drops out. He is just saying what appeals to frustrated conservatives. He has no position based on bedrock principles. We can not trust that he will uphold the Constitution. He already has said numerous times that he would err on the side of safety, even if it violates the Constitution.
ILoveCats:
--- Quote from: Mntnman on February 24, 2016, 01:33:44 PM ---I hope he drops out. He is just saying what appeals to frustrated conservatives.
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I think dropping out is the last thing on his mind. He's in it to win it, and I think after Super Tuesday it will be in the bag, for better or worse.
The big thing in his favor is that it's not just "frustrated conservatives" who are flocking to his arena-filling events. He's pulling in anti-establishment votes from moderates, and a smattering of liberals, and across more racial lines than Hillary may be able to cross. That populist draw is what Cruz lacks. Cruz looks good on paper as a "constitutional conservative" but would get slaughtered in the general election. He's not likable. He doesn't make you laugh like Trump does. He's downright creepy looking. Sorry, but that actually matters. It shouldn't, but it does.
Trump doesn't care that the old-guard GOP donors and GOP establishment hate him. And who cares? The old guard gave us Romney and Dole and McCain/Palin as nominees. And the moderates and young-generation Republicans love it that he was the only one on the GOP debate stage with the stones to say the Iraq war 2.0 was a stupid waste of lives and money.
I really don't see him flip-flopping on guns once in office. He's shrewd enough to know it's the political third rail. Supposedly his son Don Jr. is an avid shooter. NRA just did something about him on their facebook feed.
SS_N_NE:
Based on the function of a President....there is the ability to sign or veto a bill. President doesn't get to make any laws. Could make it easy to get some bills passed. Could make some harder to pass.
In any case, step back and listen to these people. With little exception there is the typical mud slinging, to remove any responsibility to explain exactly what they intend to do and how they plan to do it. Ask them a question and they rehash everything they have said before, but never answer the questions. Politicians.
Build a wall: Wouldn't it be cheaper to throw employers in jail and stick them with heavy fines for employing an illegal immigrant or expired work permit? Eliminate welfare to non-citizens and persons lacking permission to be here. No work, no money...why stay here? They would not come here, they would pack up and leave. No wall, no deportation, no ICE. Whoa...how many government workers would loose jobs on that idea. States and cities love the government funds they receive to handle their immigrant issues.
How many vows to kill Obama-care? Do you hear the part where they say they have something much better? So not eliminated, just converted into so other nonsense. Citizens should not be forced to buy a commercial and traded product.
Then the flip side is offering free school. Sure let the remaining businesses be taxed out of existence to provide government money for students...who will need to leave the country to get a job.
Mntnman:
I wasn't very clear. I meant I hope he drops out because his supporters wake up and decide he is not a good candidate. He clearly is not. He is very successfully employing his cult of personality which is how Obama got elected. Say all the things that folks want to hear and make them believe he is the one different from the rest, looking out for Joe citizen. He is all flash and bang, nothing of substance. Every one of his positions that his followers love is the complete opposite of his standing in the recent past. He just might be the biggest political insider in the race. Buying and selling political capital is what he has done for 4 decades.
If Trump is the nominee, we don't fix the damage Obama has done. The longer it is there, the less likely it ever will go away.
What this country needs is liberty minded leadership and I don't think we will ever get it again.
DenmanShooter:
Your point is exactly right. It isn't about guns or whatever the issue d'jour. It is about control. Or rather: The issue is never the issue. The issue is the revolution.
And as far as Carson goes, he is not a constitutionalist. He is a good man, a great doctor but would be a poor president. Remember, he thinks the constitution applies differently depending on where you live.
When asked by Glenn Beck if people should be allowed to own semi-automatic weapons, Dr. Benjamin Carson said: "It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it." (Glenn Beck Show, March 1, 2013)
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