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dkarp:
Sounds like you already decided on the glock style, but I was gonna suggest the S&W line of M&P pistols, or even the Ruger pistols. They seem like a good value from what I've seen. All American made, if that is a deciding factor.

Although I think most Glocks are US made now too. (If not all of them.)

Haven't seen much about the CZ-75 series or their family lately or their clones, EAA. Might be worth a look. The gun press doesn't write much about them unless they are introducing new models.

Doh! Forgot to add what I have: an old G17 that I probably paid way too much for.  (2nd gen I think)Bought it used during the Clinton crime bill years, came with 2 17 round mags is why the price was so high. I felt it was worth it then.

FYI I believe it was a police trade in, showed lots of holster wear but didn't seem to be fired a lot. Had the "black"internal parts and plastic recoil spring guide rod.

Haven't shot it much lately but keep it around for self defense and the occasional GSSF match when I have the time and money. I don't think I'd fare well trying to trade it for the latest generation of frames, but I sure would like to try a gen 4 and see how it fits my hand. Always has felt just a little "off", if ya know what I mean.

depserv:
The practice pistol I use the most is a 9mm Glock (Glock 19).  It was a used police trade-in when I bought it.  I've easily run well over 20,000 rounds through it and it works fine.  I had a breakdown a few years ago and had to replace a pin (cost under $10); I had been using dry-lube instead of oil and maybe that had something to do with the pin breaking (just a guess).  I had a trigger return spring break too and it didn't cost much to replace.  That's been at east a few thousand rounds ago and it's functioned flawlessly ever since.  Given the amount of use it's had that's pretty good I think.   

SemperFiGuy:
Kinda Odd That No One So Far Has Mentioned Carry Mode:

Glock:
Pull from Holster, Point, Pull Trigger.

1911:
Choose carry mode from Condition Zero, Condition One, Condition Two.......YadaYada.......Condition n.....

I understand nostalgia, tradition, living in the past, past glory, the need to mow down bolo-wielding Moros, the great design legacy of John Moses Browning, all that..........

I even understand the utter fascination 1911 Folks have with their firearms:  grip safety, thumb safety, wicked cocked hammer, heavy handgun heft, all that...........

I understand the sheer delirious beauty of the 1911 form and shape, all that.........

But I can't ever, ever, never understand the method of carrying that Big SOB fully cocked and locked so that it's ready to go when needed.

Especially now that all you have to do with a Glock is draw, point, and pull trigger.

And That's All I Know About That.

sfg

Randy:
SemperFiGuy

The 1911 was designed to be Condition 1 carried with its double safeties. A Glock is basically in Condition 1 whenever a round is chambered. I do not see much difference between a 1911, grab grip safety take off thumb safety pull trigger Bang vs a Glock design with it's passive "Safe Action System" pull trigger safety thus trigger Bang! You tell me which is safer.

Some prefer to carry in Condition Three but when nano seconds count, if you have a free hand and if ever in a gun fight the last thing that I want to be dong is racking the slide on my hand gun.

Col. Jeff Cooper's Conditions of Firearm Carry

Condition Four: Chamber empty, no magazine, hammer down.
Condition Three: Chamber empty, full magazine, hammer down.
Condition Two: Round chambered, full magazine, hammer down.
Condition One: Round chambered, full magazine, hammer cocked, safety on.
Condition Zero: Round chambered, full magazine, hammer cocked, safety off.[/

JTH:

--- Quote from: Randy on April 04, 2016, 02:08:49 AM ---The 1911 was designed to be Condition 1 carried with its double safeties. A Glock is basically in Condition 1 whenever a round is chambered. I do not see much difference between a 1911, grab grip safety take off thumb safety pull trigger Bang vs a Glock design with it's passive "Safe Action System" pull trigger safety thus trigger Bang!

--- End quote ---

I agree that there isn't much difference.  That being said, even a cursory reading of people's experiences (and observation at action pistol matches) will show you that an amazing number of people screw up the draw stroke and don't take off the safety under stress.  (Or sometimes accidentally knock the safety upward under stress while shooting, after a reload, etc.)

While the common reaction to that is "then they should have practiced more" (to which I agree) that doesn't change the fact that people DO seem to have issues with it.

That isn't an argument against 1911s, by the way.  It just means that if there are additional controls, people who plan on relying on those handguns need to practice it until they can't get it wrong.

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