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OnTheFly:
gsd's list is great. One thing I would add is that you need to realize that you are NOT going to learn...

1) How to draw
2) The four basic rules of safe firearm handling
3) How to shoot your firearm
4) How to react in a self defense situation

You should show up with at least 1-3 of this already learned. I had a guy in my class that pointed his firearm at me because he didn't know how to load/unload it. He was right handed and I was to his left. I stepped off the line and the instructor came over. I support everyone's right to carry a firearm, but I don't support people who are ignorant and lazy when it comes to such a serious subject as owning/carrying a firearm.

Fly

Lorimor:

--- Quote from: OnTheFly on May 13, 2016, 11:56:35 PM ---gsd's list is great. One thing I would add is that you need to realize that you are NOT going to learn...

1) How to draw
2) The four basic rules of safe firearm handling
3) How to shoot your firearm
4) How to react in a self defense situation

You should show up with at least 1-3 of this already learned. I had a guy in my class that pointed his firearm at me because he didn't know how to load/unload it. He was right handed and I was to his left. I stepped off the line and the instructor came over. I support everyone's right to carry a firearm, but I don't support people who are ignorant and lazy when it comes to such a serious subject as owning/carrying a firearm.

Fly

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+1

In a perfect world, a complete newbie wishing to get a CCW permit would first attend an NRA basic pistol class at the minimum.   And then ALL candidates would go to some kind of basic defensive handgun class at Gunsite or Thunder Ranch, a Givens class or Ayoob MAG 20/40 or some such.  There they would learn some practical knowledge about carrying a firearm for defensive purposes, like how far down the list of options a firearm is and why it's a weapon of last resort, for a wide variety of reasons.

Lorimor:

--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on May 10, 2016, 06:40:45 AM ---sfg is away off somewheres.   In the meantime, I am using his Forum space to respond to this current issue.

Here we go:
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1.    Have read Title 272, Chapter 21 of the Nebraska Administrative Code in its entirety.   And studied it thoroughly prior to coming to class.   No real burden here.   It’s only 24 pages long, perhaps less than the daily sports pages.   Lots of good information therein, especially all the tidbits that will keep a CHP-holder from going to jail for exercising his 2nd amendment rights.   But then, it must be against some folks’ religion to come to class prepared.

2.   Not have brought a stinking Ruger Single-six or any 5-shot revolver to the class to use as the qualification handgun.  (Or, alternatively, to know which direction the 5-shot revolver cylinder rotates when the trigger is pulled.)

3.   Not have brought any kind of .44Rem Magnum or similar showoff non-carry-type blunderbuss, either.

4.   Not to point their loaded handgun at themselves, the instructor, or the other class members more than a couple of times during the range qualification portion of the class.

5.   Not to load the cartridges into the magazines backwards.

6.   Not to show up at the range wanting to borrow eyes, ears, or holsters.   Or handguns.  Or ammo.

7.   Not to show up at the range with a great big smile on face and a “Brannew handgun I’ve never ever shot before!!!!”

8.   Not to shake like a leafy aspen the entire time while on the firing line.   Nervousness is contagious.   Especially for the Instructor, who is already nervous.

9.   Know the difference between .45ACP and .45GAP before leaving Cabelas.

10.   Be fully aware of the substantial responsibility that accompanies packing heat in public locations and be ready to do the study, preparation, and state of mind that is necessary to meet that responsibility.
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cranky old CHP instructor that nobody should listen to anyhow/b]

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Pretty good list, except how about not pointing ANY gun at anyone, regardless of how "unloaded" it is?  :)

Lorimor:
Because I think it's pertinent to the theme of this thread, I'll post a link to this again:

https://revolverscience.com/tag/massad-ayoob/

SemperFiGuy:

--- Quote ---Pretty good list, except how about not pointing ANY gun at anyone, regardless of how "unloaded" it is?
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Well, we wuz talking CHP classes.   But I guess then we can expand the post to include that counter clerk at a well-known Omaha gun store who was pointing the Ruger GP100 directly at me.   At which point I moved to the side.   At which point he then re-aimed the handgun directly at me.   Pointblank boresighted.

At which point I recalled some military language combined from several experienced platoon sergeants and delivered it to him directly, clearly, and loudly.

Which seemed to annoy him no end.

But this wasn't a bunch of CHP newbies; it was a very experienced local Omaha gun counter clerk.  Probably already has his CHP.   Kinda glad he wuzn't in any of my classes.

FWIW,

sfg

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