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smoore:
Thank you all for your thoughtful responses.  It just irks me to no end when I think about having to shell out money, go through 'training', fill out forms, undergo a 'background check', and carry a little card around with me that says the state has 'approved' me to exercise my right to keep and bear arms.

CustomSatellite:
There is a misconception among us that our elected officials have our best interests at heart when they run for and are elected to office to represent us. I am sure there are a select few that might still have their heart and head in the right place but the great majority of high level politicians are self serving and make very calculated decisions that will further their political careers. The numbers of these type of politicians are growing and unlike the politicians of old, these people don't even try to hide their agendas or lies any more and sadly, the collective is either too distracted or just plain doesn't care so they continue to get elected. 30 years ago Hillary Clinton not only wouldn't have been in the final stages of a presidential race, she would have been indicted and likely faced prison for her actions. Many have come before her and faced severe consequences for much less.

Today, truth is no longer an absolute. It is twisted and stretched to such an extreme and done so with no apologies. In the way of today's political arena, it's merely a game of sherades or 3 card Monty with little or no consequences if and when they do get caught in a lie. To be fair, politicians aren't to blame or at least not solely. We as a nation have allowed this to be and should be ashamed of where we are.

Many nations are simply sitting back waiting patiently because they know we are on a path of destruction at a rapid pace and they relish in the fact that we are doing to ourselves what no other nation could have ever succeeded in doing.

In terms of the original poster''s question, some of the regulations as they relate to the 2nd ammendment were spawned out of a very real public safety issue. In 1934 the GCA  addressed a specific problem in this country that the public demanded be addressed. We can argue the merits of the specifics all day long but in the end, the public generally supported the restrictions created. Since then, a group of people in this country have banded together and have attempted to target firearms because they personally believe them to be menacing to society and have taken every available opportunity to restrict ownership in whatever way necessary up to and including using deception to garner support. Most of what you hear about firearms in the media or when some politician speaks about them is absolute nonsense or at the very least spun to serve an agenda.

Until recently, this has been an effective strategy because the anti-gun crowd has been successful getting their measures passed. Again, the blame for all of this rests solely at the feet of the collective for allowing it to happen. In fairness, our rights don't just disappear over night. It's a classic case of the frog in the boiling pot scenario. If you throw a frog in a boiling pot, he will jump out but if you put him in the pot and slowly turn the heat up he'll eventually succumb to the boiling water. Similarly, our rights have been slowly eroded by greedy political groups serving their own agendas and until recently, no one noticed.

Some say it's too late and I'd say for some states, I'd tend to agree. Those of us that remain free relatively speaking aren't entirely safe. This election is going to be pivotal in terms of our freedoms, especially concerning the second ammendment. The next president already has one supreme court seat to fill and that seat fought long and hard to preserve our constitutional freedoms. There could be three seats coming to replace and a Clinton win could change the way the constitution is interpreted for an entire generation.

I'm praying that common sense prevails over stupidity even though Mr. Trump may not be the best alternative.

Kilroy:
Some states have constitutional carry laws, or in other words, no carry permit needed. Perhaps we could get an organized lobbying campaign going for that in Nebraska?

Les:

--- Quote from: CustomSatellite on September 27, 2016, 03:56:36 PM ---There is a misconception among us that our elected officials have our best interests at heart when they run for and are elected to office to represent us. I am sure there are a select few that might still have their heart and head in the right place but the great majority of high level politicians are self serving and make very calculated decisions that will further their political careers. The numbers of these type of politicians are growing and unlike the politicians of old, these people don't even try to hide their agendas or lies any more and sadly, the collective is either too distracted or just plain doesn't care so they continue to get elected. 30 years ago Hillary Clinton not only wouldn't have been in the final stages of a presidential race, she would have been indicted and likely faced prison for her actions. Many have come before her and faced severe consequences for much less.

Today, truth is no longer an absolute. It is twisted and stretched to such an extreme and done so with no apologies. In the way of today's political arena, it's merely a game of sherades or 3 card Monty with little or no consequences if and when they do get caught in a lie. To be fair, politicians aren't to blame or at least not solely. We as a nation have allowed this to be and should be ashamed of where we are.

Many nations are simply sitting back waiting patiently because they know we are on a path of destruction at a rapid pace and they relish in the fact that we are doing to ourselves what no other nation could have ever succeeded in doing.

In terms of the original poster''s question, some of the regulations as they relate to the 2nd ammendment were spawned out of a very real public safety issue. In 1934 the GCA  addressed a specific problem in this country that the public demanded be addressed. We can argue the merits of the specifics all day long but in the end, the public generally supported the restrictions created. Since then, a group of people in this country have banded together and have attempted to target firearms because they personally believe them to be menacing to society and have taken every available opportunity to restrict ownership in whatever way necessary up to and including using deception to garner support. Most of what you hear about firearms in the media or when some politician speaks about them is absolute nonsense or at the very least spun to serve an agenda.

Until recently, this has been an effective strategy because the anti-gun crowd has been successful getting their measures passed. Again, the blame for all of this rests solely at the feet of the collective for allowing it to happen. In fairness, our rights don't just disappear over night. It's a classic case of the frog in the boiling pot scenario. If you throw a frog in a boiling pot, he will jump out but if you put him in the pot and slowly turn the heat up he'll eventually succumb to the boiling water. Similarly, our rights have been slowly eroded by greedy political groups serving their own agendas and until recently, no one noticed.

Some say it's too late and I'd say for some states, I'd tend to agree. Those of us that remain free relatively speaking aren't entirely safe. This election is going to be pivotal in terms of our freedoms, especially concerning the second ammendment. The next president already has one supreme court seat to fill and that seat fought long and hard to preserve our constitutional freedoms. There could be three seats coming to replace and a Clinton win could change the way the constitution is interpreted for an entire generation.

I'm praying that common sense prevails over stupidity even though Mr. Trump may not be the best alternative.

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I like the "Frog boiling" analogy, very apropos.

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