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.25 APC v .22LR
GreyGeek:
I am old enough to remember when LOTS of people carried pocket pistols in both calibers. Here is an interesting video comparing the two rounds
Wildgoose:
Thanks for posting. Very interesting indeed.
Kendahl:
Something else that made the .25 obsolete is the advent of really small .380s.
Any gun benefits from good sights and a good trigger but tiny ones are affected most. There is a YouTube video of Hickok45 hitting the gong at the back of his range with a Kahr P380.
I wasn't impressed by the penetration test. Old Painless on The Box o' Truth figures that 24" of water is comparable to 12" of ballistic gelatin. If so, the minimum would be for a bullet to make it through a line of four one gallon milk jugs. That might require shooting round nose bullets instead of hollow points. During the disastrous FBI shootout in Miami thirty years ago, the more effective of the two bad guys caught a bullet early in the fight that failed to put him down because it stopped short of his heart.
The smaller the gun and the more powerful the caliber, the worse the recoil. If I were going to carry a small, light revolver, it would be a Ruger LCR in .22 LR. Eight shots instead of five or six and minimal recoil.
GreyGeek:
--- Quote from: Kendahl on October 28, 2016, 05:59:22 PM ---Something else that made the .25 obsolete is the advent of really small .380s.
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.38 cartridges are eight times the cost of .22LR.
--- Quote from: Kendahl on October 28, 2016, 05:59:22 PM ---The smaller the gun and the more powerful the caliber, the worse the recoil. If I were going to carry a small, light revolver, it would be a Ruger LCR in .22 LR. Eight shots instead of five or six and minimal recoil.
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Nine, with one in the pipe. Even then the recoil of an HP-22A or a PT-22 is going to take you off target unless you have a good two hand hold on the gun.
However, the center of mass isn't going to do it for you with a .22LR unless you get lucky and hit the heart or the dorsal aorta or the superior vena cava. As the video implies, "center of head" would be better than center of mass, which is about the same size as center of head. Lateral rib shots, or a gut shot isn't going to do much to stop someone high on adrenaline. A throat shot might be useful it it passes through the throat and hits the spine. On the head, perforating anything but the ears is going to make for a bad day.
BranchMillardian:
Thanks for the video. It was interesting.
Something I ran across a few years ago: http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
The raw statistics this fellow gathered was eye opening for me, but not surprising (based upon my own hunting and target shooting experience). I think you might find his research interesting too.
I had a similar struggle about five years ago, when helping my wife learn to shoot and when she picked a handgun for herself. Small caliber arms don't get the credit they deserve.
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