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Beretta is Out; SigSauer is In: New Military Sidearm
SemperFiGuy:
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Yup.
That's why we usually* win our wars.
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*Actually, I think we've won them all, but some folks (mostly media and supposedly elite types) sometimes claim otherwise.
Ivars:
Serious questions. How much use do sidearms see in the military? Don't special ops guys already have better pistols? What are the problems with the 92?
I've never owned one but have shot a couple. Wasn't compelled to buy one but wasn't disappointed either.
SemperFiGuy:
--- Quote ---What are the problems with the 92??
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Appears the USAF and USArmy wanted something "fresher" than the M9.
Here's a synopsis of the requirements:
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Requirements
The U.S. Army initially required the MHS to be more effective, accurate, and reliable than the M9 pistol. The MHS requirement called for a non-caliber specific weapon with modular features to allow for the adaption of different fire control devices, pistol grips, and alternate magazine options. The weapon will fit various hand sizes and will mount targeting enablers using Picatinny rails. The new weapon will incorporate detection avoidance by having a non-reflective neutral color and will be operable with a suppressor in place.[7]
In January 2013, the Army released a Request for Information (RFI) to assess available handgun technologies and U.S. small arms industrial production capacity for the Modular Handgun System. The announcement seeks information “on potential improvements in handgun performance in the areas of accuracy and dispersion out to 50 meters, terminal performance, modularity, reliability, and durability in all environments.” The handgun should have a 90 percent or more chance of hitting in a 4-inch circle out to 50 meters consistently throughout the weapon's lifetime. Ergonomic design should minimize recoil energies and control shot dispersion. Features include, but are not limited to, compatibility with accessory items to include tactical lights, lasers, and sound suppressors. Full ambidextrous controls are required and there is interest in ergonomic designs that can be controlled by female shooters.
There is no specific caliber, but terminal ballistics at 50 meters through 14 inches of ballistics gel will assess lethality compared to M882 9mm FMJ rounds. Specific interest is given to pistols that can accommodate higher chamber pressures over 20 percent greater than SAAMI specification for the cartridge without degradation of reliability. The RFI calls for 2,000 mean rounds between stoppages, 10,000 mean rounds between failures, and a 35,000 round service life. Manufacturers are asked to provide production capacity estimates on minimum and maximum monthly rates, as well as the lead times to achieve those rates. Estimated pricing is requested for quantities of 250,000 to 550,000 handguns.
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There was some discussion in other locations about caliber interchangeability, but that factor does not seem to be in play in the above posting.
And the point above about "....accuracy out to 50 meters........" is a hoot.
FWIW,
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shooter:
with Trump in.. do you think there will be a lot of Beretta magazines and pistols for sale surplus?
SemperFiGuy:
--- Quote --- with Trump in.. do you think there will be a lot of Beretta magazines and pistols for sale surplus?
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Wuz wondrin' that myself.
And really don't know.
I like just about anything that shoots, but don't just exactly where an M9/92 would fit in my own measly arsenal, collection, whatever. Too big, bulky, and heavy for an EDC gun, IMHO. But if they were cheap enough, I'd probably buy one just for the heckuvit.
Bought an M9 for my eldest son as a present when he was first commissioned in the USAF. He did the sensible thing and sold it when his pack of rowdy boys got old enough to poke around in closets and figger out locks.
So---I really dunno what will go on the surplus market. Moreso, I like those police trade-ins that Buds Gun Shop pops up with now and then.
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