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depserv:

--- Quote from: GreyGeek on January 23, 2017, 11:07:55 AM ---National reciprocity  would, eventually,  require national standardized training.  One course content and shooting test mandatory for all states.  That's both good and bad.  Good because it reduces the 50 sources of roadblocks to the 2A to just one.  Bad, because it gives the #Alt-Left just one target in their quest to set the bar of access to that which "shall not be infringed" so high that it is unaccessible.

With control of both houses, the white house and, hopefully, being able to put one or more conservatives on the SCOTUS we may have an opportunity to enact an amendment to the BoR that defines the 2A as giving everyone in the nation Constitutional Carry.  No license or permit needed to buy, carry or use any firearm, and no restraint of trade in the manufacture and sale of arms and ammunition.

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There is already an amendment that gives everyone a right to have a gun and carry it my friend: it's the 2nd Amendment.  What we need is a federal court filled with judges who will obey the law.  As long as we have judges who will not, another amendment won't make any difference. 

There might be one exception though; here's my idea:
Amendment XXVIII:
Interpretation of the Constitution shall be based solely in the original intent of its authors.  Any judge giving an opinion or voting based on any other criteria shall be removed from office, and shall serve not less than ten years in a federal prison, thereafter never being able to hold any government office for the remainder of his or her life.  This amendment shall be retroactive, and shall apply to decisions that have been made by judges now sitting.

Who makes the decision of whether or not this law has been upheld and how it's decided is problematic, but I think a way could be found to do it.

National reciprocity does not have to have any uniform code for training or anything else, though there is little doubt the enemy of freedom will try to work one in.  What the law should say is that every state shall give full faith and credit to any carry license issued by any other state, period.  How the law ends up being written will show us how many RINOs mistakenly got elected to Congress, so they can hopefully be removed in the next election, and replaced by loyal Americans who will obey the oath they swear to support and defend the Constitution. 

Even this is an imperfect and hopefully temporary fix, that will be better than what we have until there are enough loyal Americans on the Court that no license at all is required, as the law makes clear (with the words shall not be infringed).

PhilK:
I took my Minnesota "training" in October 2015:  http://www.rivervalleytraining.com/

The change in Minnesota law was that for reciprocity, the other state's permit requirements had to be "substantially similar" to Minnesota instead of "similar".

The local's take on it was that they lobbied for the change so they could have reciprocity with North Dakota, but it backfired when the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, Bureau of Criminal Apprehension decided that "substantially similar permit requirements" required a much closer match in requirements than "similar requirements".

The devil is in the details and, sadly, in those implementing the details.   >:D

AAllen:
The reason Minnesota does not recognize Nebraska's permit is more political than about the law. The person that must approve recognition in Minnesota is strongly anti gun and they actively look for reasons not to recognize someone's permit. For Nebraskans it has to do with differences in the law on how you can get your rights reinstated being different than Minnesota's, so it is about who can legally posses a firearm that makes the difference not anything with CHP training etc.

rudy:
The short answer is that you have to get a MN nonresident permit. I hold one. The most annoying part of the deal is having to apply in person; however, as a nonresident, you can apply in any county.

As for the class, it has to be given by an instructor that has been trained by a business approved by the Minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension. Approved organizations can be found here: https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/administrative/Pages/firearms-instructor-locator.aspx not all are in MN. No approved busonessrs in NE, but some in IA. While I have never taken one of his classes, Paul Horvick is MN certified and sometimes holds classes in NE. When I was looking for a MN class in NE a few years back, he had one on the schedule, but the timing didn't work out for me. His website is http://shootingsafely.com There may be other MN approved trainers in NE, too, but I do not know of any.

GreyGeek:
Post de Facto laws are unconstitutional


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