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Offline nebGun

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Ghost Guns Again..
« on: February 10, 2017, 01:12:30 AM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/loophole-lets-criminals-buy-untraceable-ghost-guns-online-n719121

Here we go again..more legislation on the way for something that is already a crime, let's make it more illegal - that'll show em!

What's dumb is that they say it is legal to order this kit, which is true. They leave out the part where "If you make this into a gun it is a federal crime." Selectively telling the truth again to push their agenda. So much for being able to order uppers and such online if they get their way.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2017, 01:23:37 AM by nebGun »
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Re: Ghost Guns Again..
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 08:45:07 AM »
Actually building a gun yourself is completely legal, and building an AR from an 80% lower is not that difficult with the proper tools and some knowledge. But doing so in a couple of hours is a exageration, it would take a bit longer than that.

But here is the question, if you can build a gun from an 80% lower you could also do so from a block of aluminum for an AR or block of steel fora 1911 or,any other firearms. How are they going to stop people from building guns from a block of metal.

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Re: Ghost Guns Again..
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 09:18:31 AM »
How are they going to stop people from building guns from a block of metal.

Close the Loophole by not selling blocks of metal without a background check ?

Then the next thing you know you won't be able to loan your buddy a block of metal with out a back ground check and an ownership transfer.

Plus they will outlaw ownership of any blocks of metal that hold more then 10 rounds.
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Re: Ghost Guns Again..
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 10:23:13 AM »
Actually building a gun yourself is completely legal, and building an AR from an 80% lower is not that difficult with the proper tools and some knowledge. But doing so in a couple of hours is a exageration, it would take a bit longer than that.

But here is the question, if you can build a gun from an 80% lower you could also do so from a block of aluminum for an AR or block of steel fora 1911 or,any other firearms. How are they going to stop people from building guns from a block of metal.
When I say it is illegal I was meaning that if a criminal that couldn't pass a background check and they did this, it would be a crime. Since the issue here is about criminals bypassing a background, not law abiding citizens doing this. However, I'm not an expert on this, could be wrong. The no serial number part makes me think it would be illegal though.

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Re: Ghost Guns Again..
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 10:01:26 PM »
When I say it is illegal I was meaning that if a criminal that couldn't pass a background check and they did this, it would be a crime. Since the issue here is about criminals bypassing a background, not law abiding citizens doing this. However, I'm not an expert on this, could be wrong. The no serial number part makes me think it would be illegal though.

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Actually it is Totally legal as long as you only built it for yourself.....

Correct me if i'm wrong but if I remember right

The Gray area is
If you ever sell same said Non serialized weapon.(Giving it to a legal family member [long as they can legally own one] is ok) without adding any serial #

Or

The illegal area.
If you happen to be or become a prohibited person in position of same non serialized weapon.

 
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