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Les:
Here we go.  http://journalstar.com/legislature/proposal-to-eliminate-local-gun-ordinances-moves-forward/article_e4f34d48-09ed-5045-9e46-e0faf61ea824.html

hilowe:
What is this??


--- Quote ---Another provision would make it easier to prosecute people who buy stolen guns, by requiring courts to presume a firearm is stolen if the purchaser can't provide documentation, Hilgers said.
--- End quote ---

So, if they're reporting it correctly, and I'm reading it correctly, unless I can provide a bill of sale, the gun is assumed to have been stolen?  What about firearms that are inherited? Or, those that actually trust their family and sell a gun to one of them?

wcr:
Presumed guilty until proven innocent.  Thought it was supposed to be the other way around.
Could authorities just take your gun and then you have to prove it is yours?  By that logic you
would have to keep a bill of sale on you anytime you carried or they could just confiscate your
gun until you proved it was yours to get it back.  Smacks of the Civil Asset Forfeiture Laws
which allows authorities to take your cash until you can (at your time and cost) prove it is
legally yours.  I don't have a problem if they have probable cause to believe the gun is stolen or illegally possessed (i.e. felon in possession), but where are the constraints?  Or am I reading too much into it?

m morton:
i have shotgun i bought way back in 82 i don't have Receipt too any more. and the store i got it from "Montgomery wards" is closed for good a long time ago. i all so have 2 pistols i bought in Cal. while i was in the army 86-89. even my old neb registration cards have fallen apart being that old ... the paper dried out and small squares fall off any time it's touched lol 

IMO like any other crime the burden of proof lies with the state "innocent till proven guilty"

just like those that were given "grandpas"  old gun with no paperwork. how do you prove ownership ??? i have a gun i was given a 22 cal Ranger 101.16 tube mag. can't prove it's mine all of a sudden ? it's so old i don't even see a sn on it.. my grandfather owned this gun 20+ years before i was even born ...

Found this info. Ranger 101.16 made by Savage/Stevens for Sears Roebuck Co. with minimal production during 1938-1941 (WW2).

Les:
Guess I'm curious to hear what happened and why (more clarification) before getting out the torches and pitchforks.  I'd bet there's more to this than meets the eye.  But still doesn't sound good. 

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