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Is it normal for semi auto hand gun to throw spent cartrdiges backwards?

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JTH:

--- Quote from: StuartJ on March 18, 2017, 05:01:37 PM ---I'm very new to shooting.  In fact I'm just shot two handguns both this week. A .22 pistol which I enjoyed. Don't remember model. And a Springfield XD mod 2 9mm which I didn't enjoy so much.  First off I had a harder time loading the 9mm mag than the .22 mag. Second the 9mm kept tossing the spent shells back at me. The .22 sent them away from me. Don't know if it was the gun or if I was doing something wrong.
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In addition to what people have already said, sometimes it is the combination of a specific gun and a specific kind of ammo.  (For example, some handguns will behave extremely differently in terms of ejection with Tula ammo versus Federal ammo.)



--- Quote ---I was also more accurate with the .22. More holes lower on the target and to the right with the 9mm. In any case, I'm going to rent a revolver next week, see if I like it better.
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Was the trigger on the .22 single-action?  (Something like a Ruger 22/45 pistol?)  The trigger on striker-fired 9mms (like the XDm and so on) is longer and has a higher pull weight than most .22  semi-auto pistol and as such, issues with trigger control will be much more obvious.

I'm going to bet that when you shoot the revolver, if you shoot it double-action you'll see the same sort of issue---because this is common for just about everyone new to firearms.  Good trigger control takes practice.  :)

SemperFiGuy:
The ejector pin on a Springfield XD hits the empty cartridge case at the bottom-left of the case head when the empty fired case is backing out of the chamber.

This ejector placement should normally spin the empty case around the extractor and send the empty case up and to the right.

It seems the ejector would need to be placed at the bottom of the empty cartridge case in order to spin it up and straight back.  However, a bent ejector or about a hundred different little variations in the handgun chamber or ammo could mess up everything.

Coupla Points:

1)   Gotta say it:   Always wear safety glasses   (Which--of course--you always do.)

2)   If you are helping a lady shoot your XD and the hot MT case goes up and straight back, then down the front of her blouse (which is actually quite common), YOU MUST NOT REACH IN FOR THE MT CASE, no matter how gentlemanly your motives.

'Nuff on that point.



FWIW,

sfg

Les:

--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on March 20, 2017, 08:48:48 AM ---The ejector pin on a Springfield XD hits the empty cartridge case at the bottom-left of the case head when the empty fired case is backing out of the chamber.

This ejector placement should normally spin the empty case around the extractor and send the empty case up and to the right.

It seems the ejector would need to be placed at the bottom of the empty cartridge case in order to spin it up and straight back.  However, a bent ejector or about a hundred different little variations in the handgun chamber or ammo could mess up everything.

Coupla Points:

1)   Gotta say it:   Always wear safety glasses   (Which--of course--you always do.)

2)   If you are helping a lady shoot your XD and the hot MT case goes up and straight back, then down the front of her blouse (which is actually quite common), YOU MUST NOT REACH IN FOR THE MT CASE, no matter how gentlemanly your motives.

'Nuff on that point.



FWIW,

sfg
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Indeed. LOL

sidearm1:
Now this is said with only HUMOR in mind.  But was the shooter firing the weapon "gangsta" style?

Kurt K:
You said you're a new shooter, and new shooters usually have a problem with "limp wristing."  If you don't hold the pistol firmly in place, and I mean FIRMLY, the energy of the recoil will be taken up by your hands instead of letting the slide do its job of ejecting and chambering a new round.  When my wife started shooting, she had frequent jams while I had none.  If you watch Rob Leatham shooting an XD (check out YouTube), you'll see very little muzzle flip.  He crushes the grip.  I think if you do the same, the ejection problem will disappear.

Given that I load magazines embarrassingly slowly, I use a Maglula Uplula loader.  Once you use that, you'll load faster than the guy with steel thumbs.

As for gun accuracy, almost all guns are inherently pretty accurate; it's the shooters who aren't.  (Saying that, I'm staring at a Ruger LC9s on my desk that has a badly drifted front sight and has to get returned to be pinned in place.)  You can usually shoot better with one gun than another because you grip one better or because you like the sights better, and so forth.  I have a really cheap CO2 BB pistol with a horrid trigger that can hit little bullseyes at 7 yards no problem.

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