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Utah lowers conceal carry age to 18

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Nebfamman:
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Mntnman:


--- Quote from: CNeal on March 30, 2017, 03:11:02 PM ---You must prove your ability and knowledge of the safe rearing of a citizen and then beheld socially and financially responsible for all the actions of said citizen until they reach a socially acceptable level of maturity.
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Actually, they would prefer you hand your children over to the state so that they can raise them to be completely dependent for every aspect of security and well being. We have already headed so far it that direction. (State as in government, not Nebraska, of course.)

Great post, you get it!

Mntnman:
As you can see, everyone has their own idea of standards for someone else to be able to exercise their rights. What we have to realize is that it opens us up for our rights to be taken by others' standards.

We really need to wrap our heads around the fact that rights come with risks. We have to accept that just because the idea of some exercising their rights is scary to us, it does not make us right to deny their liberty. The left does that for us enough.

Once someone has abused a right, then we can talk about whether or not they should keep it. Also, once someone has fulfilled a debt to society, they too, should have their rights back.

Mntnman:
This thread is a great illustration why our very wise forefathers founded a Constitutional Republic instead of a Democracy. They knew that the majority would vote away the rights of the minority.

DanClrk51:

--- Quote from: Mntnman on March 30, 2017, 01:23:05 PM ---I disagree. The problem started when the idea that we need restrictions gained acceptance. We care enough about preserving our rights to participate in gun rights groups and yet we are so conditioned that we only want limit the restrictions put on us, not go back to the way it rightfully was. We are our worst enemies.
There are ways to address the concerns that hang some of you up that aren't counter to having the rights we naturally possess. Every time we go along with a restriction "for the greater good", we put another crack in the foundation of liberty.

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Right on! It's simple, prosecute people for their violent actions instead of infringing on rights based on the perception of possible negative actions and leave everyone else alone. Period.

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