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Offline Merl

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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 09:54:59 AM »
"The proposal does also include exceptions that would allow Omaha to keep its ban on openly carrying firearms in public places. Omaha would also be allowed to require concealed handgun permit holders to store firearms out of reach when traveling with them in the city."

This is incorrect from the article, the bill exempts Concealed handgun permit holders from almost all of the Omaha compromise.  Wish when reporting they would get the facts straight.

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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2017, 12:09:39 PM »
"The proposal does also include exceptions that would allow Omaha to keep its ban on openly carrying firearms in public places. Omaha would also be allowed to require concealed handgun permit holders to store firearms out of reach when traveling with them in the city."

This is incorrect from the article, the bill exempts Concealed handgun permit holders from almost all of the Omaha compromise.  Wish when reporting they would get the facts straight.
As per frequently with that website not much actual "reporting" is done.  Always appeared to me they read the article and reword some of it so as to stave off plagiarism complaints.  If it's repeated 3 times it becomes fact right?   :P

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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 04:24:57 PM »
This is confusing. Does my CHP allow me to open carry in Omaha? Also, will LB 68 allow the carrying of concealed firearms in parks in Omaha? I've seen a sign posted on a lamp post at Elmwood Park that says concealed firearms aren't allowed... Does this apply just driving through on the street? What about walking through on the sidewalks? Can open carry be prohibited in public parks as well?

Also: doesn't Lincoln prohibit concealed carry in parks too?
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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2017, 09:25:30 AM »
This is confusing. Does my CHP allow me to open carry in Omaha? Also, will LB 68 allow the carrying of concealed firearms in parks in Omaha? I've seen a sign posted on a lamp post at Elmwood Park that says concealed firearms aren't allowed... Does this apply just driving through on the street? What about walking through on the sidewalks? Can open carry be prohibited in public parks as well?

Also: doesn't Lincoln prohibit concealed carry in parks too?
I can't speak for Lincoln's policies, but in Omaha they have posted all public parks as "firearm free zones" regardless of a CHP. Omaha did not ban open carry within city limits, rather they require the purchase of an "Open Carry Permit" unless you already have a CHP. Basically the possession of a CHP in the city means you don't have to follow their special rules. It does not give us exception from places that are posted, but that will be a fight for another day.
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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2017, 09:29:55 AM »
"The proposal does also include exceptions that would allow Omaha to keep its ban on openly carrying firearms in public places. Omaha would also be allowed to require concealed handgun permit holders to store firearms out of reach when traveling with them in the city."

This is incorrect from the article, the bill exempts Concealed handgun permit holders from almost all of the Omaha compromise.  Wish when reporting they would get the facts straight.

The other part of incorrect facts is the two items above where they say that Omaha "bans" open carry. Omaha didn't ban it, they regulated it. To open carry within city limits requires a permit but you can still do so.

Not sure at all where they got the whole CHP will be required to store firearms out of reach, unless they are confusing it with the bill to define "concealed."

Either way it was piss-poor reporting.
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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 06:06:22 PM »
Lincoln THINKS they can ban legal CHP in the parks but it is only legal if they have posted conspicuous notice at every public entrance as per the definitions in the Administrative code laid out by the Nebraska State Patrol.

Otherwise the city of Lincoln has been stripped of the power to regulate transportation, possession or ownership of handguns carried under the rules and regulations of the Concealed handgun act.

Omaha has the same limitations, but I am not familiar with signage in Omaha parks
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2017, 06:14:49 PM »
i know that the Omaha DAM Sites / lakes are posted other parks no clue.  but with Omaha being well Omaha my bet is they all are posted ......
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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2017, 08:31:36 PM »
I can't say all Omaha parks are posted because signs keep disappearing and some seem to only be posted at one of multiple entrances. These are posted because the director of Omaha's Parks and Recreation Department feels he must because Omaha has an ordinance that bans weapons in parks, and the city council agrees with him. LB68 would do away with that ordinance and then the signs may come down.

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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2017, 09:23:21 PM »
Lincoln THINKS they can ban legal CHP in the parks but it is only legal if they have posted conspicuous notice at every public entrance as per the definitions in the Administrative code laid out by the Nebraska State Patrol.

Otherwise the city of Lincoln has been stripped of the power to regulate transportation, possession or ownership of handguns carried under the rules and regulations of the Concealed handgun act.

Omaha has the same limitations, but I am not familiar with signage in Omaha parks

And yet the parks have *not* become miniature versions of the "Wild West" we often hear about...
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Re: Ne. Senate? lol
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2017, 08:12:41 PM »
My personal belief is that a city cannot ban carry by a CHP holder by posting public property. That is an act by the city affecting the possession of a concealable firearm by a CHP holder which is already preempted. The rule can't be legally asserted agains a CHP holder. The previous city attorney also had this opinion, though I don't know if the current one does.