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Attention AR15 pistol owners
shooter:
--- Quote from: orion on May 02, 2017, 05:35:29 AM ---It would be nice if POTUS was raining in the ATF but I don't think so.
Look at what's been happening lately to company's that sell solvent trap components.
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Whats up with solvent traps? I havnt heard anything about that
Les:
--- Quote from: shooter on May 02, 2017, 07:36:03 AM --- Whats up with solvent traps? I havnt heard anything about that
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I don't have a link handy, but they've called for cease and desist from at least 2 manufacturers.
CustomSatellite:
The original marketing of the solvent trap wasn't the problem. The company that started this was preppers discount I believe and they were marketing parts that of themselves were unrelated to suppressors in any form. Although the end result was clear, the ATF was powerless to take any action. The legal responsibility was placed firmly at the feet of the end users should they decide to make the suggested modifications to the parts. Keep in mind that simply being in possession of suppressor parts can be and has been used to prove constructive intent to posess a supressor, although there is no clear line that needs to be crossed. I've been watching this closely over the last few years and knew it would be ending soon because the companies that were selling the parts decided that if selling arbitrary unfinished parts were good, selling finished parts in the form of a ready made kit would be better both financially for them and the end user. Some even advertised sending customers Form 1's for customers to fill out and send in to be approved for their homemade suppressors. The fatal flaw in this action was that individuals are prohibited from possessing suppressor parts prior to the Form 1 being approved. Simply having the finished parts with the clear intent of the end result violates NFA regulations both from a retail standpoint and individual end user standpoint.
Anyone can build their own suppressor following Form 1 approval and many have, but a manufacturer must serialize and Form 2 any and all manufactured firearm and NFA related devices and are prohibited from transferring them to anyone accept other SOT dealers without a Form 4 approval and subsequent stamp issued to the end user. One of the companies ordered to cease was a class 07 manufacturer. Im not sure how they thought they could do this in clear violation of their 07 license requirements. All of these companies overstepped the NFA regs attempting to circumvent the process. It was only a matter of time before the ATF put an end to it.
For the record this information isn't an opinion of mine supporting the ATF but merely explaining what I saw happening and predicting the inevitable outcome.
CustomSatellite:
Also as to the original post, please keep in mind that as of today the ATF reversal applies to the company addressed in the ruling only, not to any other company that produces arm braces such as the Sig brace. It also forbids you from altering it from its original form which could reclassify the entire firearm as an SBR. Anyone reading the ruling should keep these things in mind. I'd hate to see anyone become a test case.
Mntnman:
--- Quote from: CustomSatellite on May 02, 2017, 11:47:43 AM ---Also as to the original post, please keep in mind that as of today the ATF reversal applies to the company addressed in the ruling only, not to any other company that produces arm braces such as the Sig brace.
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I'm pretty sure that isn't the case as pointed out in Dan's link here:
http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?p=3524#comments
As for Trump leaning on the ATF, I think it has more to do with getting ahead of people's attitudes toward firearm declassification. I think they are trying to give a little to quell a passion that might see a lot of regulations get tossed. Make us fight for what we want and we'll probably take even more in the process.
JMHO
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