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What's the Deal with Bills of Sale?
Opusnbill7:
Nobody says it is, but it's sure a hell of a lot better than not having one at all. It may not be perfect, but at least it shows you "tried". You verified their permit against their ID (that they presented). Unless you're sleeping with the prosecutor's wife on the side, he'll probably move on... :P
SemperFiGuy:
The basic premise of this post is that a bill of sale "has no validity in law".
Bills of Sale have substantial validity in law.
The Cornell Law site shows 9 pages of Uniform Commercial Code which apply to bills of sale, starting here:
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46 CFR 67.527- Application for filing and recording bills of sale and instruments in the nature of a bill of sale.
§ 67.527 Application for filing and recording bills of sale and instruments in the nature of ... a bill of sale. An application fee is charged for filing and recording bills of sale and instruments in ... the nature of a bill of sale in accordance with subpart P of this part. Section 67.527 ...
bill of sale
ownership and to detail what was actually purchased. A bill of sale may accompany an agreement that states ...
26 CFR 403.60- Purchaser entitled to bill of sale.
§ 403.60 Purchaser entitled to bill of sale. Each purchaser of administratively forfeited property ... is entitled to receive a suitable bill of sale. Section 403.60 ...
27 CFR 72.66- Purchaser entitled to bill of sale.
§ 72.66 Purchaser entitled to bill of sale. Each purchaser of administratively forfeited property, ... including carriers, shall be entitled to receive a suitable and authentic bill of sale on a form to be ...
46 CFR 67.89- Waiver of production of a bill of sale eligible for filing and recording.
§ 67.89 Waiver of production of a bill of sale eligible for filing and recording. (a) When the ... evidence of title passage required by this subpart is a bill of sale which meets the criteria for filing ... Center waive that requirement. (b) No waiver of the requirement to produce a bill of sale eligible for ...
19 CFR 24.34- Vouchers; vendors' bills of sale; invoices.
§ 24.34 Vouchers; vendors' bills of sale; invoices. (a) Vouchers or invoices for ... payment has not been received. Vouchers, vendors' bills of sale, or invoices for purchases or ...
46 CFR Part 67, Subpart P- Filing and Recording of Instruments- Bills of Sale and Related Instruments
§ 67.220 Requirements. § 67.223 Filing limitation. ...
46 CFR 67.75- Transfers by sale or donation subsequent to documentation.
provided in this subpart, transfers of vessel title must be evidenced by a bill of sale which meets the ... subpart O of this part, each bill of sale must be accompanied by a declaration of citizenship from the new ... owner, executed on the appropriate Maritime Administration form described in § 67.211. (b) The bill of ...
46 CFR 67.200- Instruments eligible for filing and recording.
eligible for filing and recording: (a) Bills of sale and instruments in the nature of bills of sale; (b) ...
46 CFR 67.501- Application for Certificate of Documentation.
and recording any required bills of sale or instruments in the nature of a bill of sale, or the ...
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Time now to wrap this one up.
sfg
Les:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on August 19, 2017, 09:37:27 AM ---The basic premise of this post is that a bill of sale "has no validity in law".
Bills of Sale have substantial validity in law.
The Cornell Law site shows 9 pages of Uniform Commercial Code which apply to bills of sale, starting here:
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46 CFR 67.527- Application for filing and recording bills of sale and instruments in the nature of a bill of sale.
§ 67.527 Application for filing and recording bills of sale and instruments in the nature of ... a bill of sale. An application fee is charged for filing and recording bills of sale and instruments in ... the nature of a bill of sale in accordance with subpart P of this part. Section 67.527 ...
bill of sale
ownership and to detail what was actually purchased. A bill of sale may accompany an agreement that states ...
26 CFR 403.60- Purchaser entitled to bill of sale.
§ 403.60 Purchaser entitled to bill of sale. Each purchaser of administratively forfeited property ... is entitled to receive a suitable bill of sale. Section 403.60 ...
27 CFR 72.66- Purchaser entitled to bill of sale.
§ 72.66 Purchaser entitled to bill of sale. Each purchaser of administratively forfeited property, ... including carriers, shall be entitled to receive a suitable and authentic bill of sale on a form to be ...
46 CFR 67.89- Waiver of production of a bill of sale eligible for filing and recording.
§ 67.89 Waiver of production of a bill of sale eligible for filing and recording. (a) When the ... evidence of title passage required by this subpart is a bill of sale which meets the criteria for filing ... Center waive that requirement. (b) No waiver of the requirement to produce a bill of sale eligible for ...
19 CFR 24.34- Vouchers; vendors' bills of sale; invoices.
§ 24.34 Vouchers; vendors' bills of sale; invoices. (a) Vouchers or invoices for ... payment has not been received. Vouchers, vendors' bills of sale, or invoices for purchases or ...
46 CFR Part 67, Subpart P- Filing and Recording of Instruments- Bills of Sale and Related Instruments
§ 67.220 Requirements. § 67.223 Filing limitation. ...
46 CFR 67.75- Transfers by sale or donation subsequent to documentation.
provided in this subpart, transfers of vessel title must be evidenced by a bill of sale which meets the ... subpart O of this part, each bill of sale must be accompanied by a declaration of citizenship from the new ... owner, executed on the appropriate Maritime Administration form described in § 67.211. (b) The bill of ...
46 CFR 67.200- Instruments eligible for filing and recording.
eligible for filing and recording: (a) Bills of sale and instruments in the nature of bills of sale; (b) ...
46 CFR 67.501- Application for Certificate of Documentation.
and recording any required bills of sale or instruments in the nature of a bill of sale, or the ...
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Time now to wrap this one up.
sfg
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CC:
Nice job.
Laufen:
--- Quote from: Opusnbill7 on August 18, 2017, 05:14:21 PM ---Nobody says it is, but it's sure a hell of a lot better than not having one at all. It may not be perfect, but at least it shows you "tried". You verified their permit against their ID (that they presented). Unless you're sleeping with the prosecutor's wife on the side, he'll probably move on... :P
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I don't need to "try" or convince anyone that I did. I'm not a federally licensed dealer and I am not required to keep or dispense any personal data in the sale of a firearm. I can't imagine why anyone would want to do such a thing.
Put those yolks on y'all./
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