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Push for recall of Wayne LaPierre from NRA!
StuartJ:
The BATFE is not a legitimate agency. Is sole purpose is to infringe on citizens rights.
I just looked at the link. Apparently they expected this and raised the number of signatures required to 5% of last vote which is 6500 voting members, which is 5 year members and life members. So Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox managed to protect themselves .
Les:
--- Quote from: sidearm1 on October 09, 2017, 08:38:10 PM ---I see no reason to recall anyone. Let the ATF decide and go from there. Litigation will show that ATF approved them several times and that nothing really changed. Mr. LaPierre has done a lot of good. Just because of one decision we want to change. Will we get any better or worse.
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It was a good move throwing it back into ATF's lap, especially since they've already reviewed it twice if memory serves. Also provides time for the hoopla/emotion to die down, I'd doubt they'd get a vote on any bill. Should turn out to be a "Nothing Burger" But time will tell, and Wayne's been there for quite a while so it'd be tough rooting him out and I'm not sure he should be.
StuartJ:
I disagree. Treating a bureaucratic agency the purpose of which is to infringe on citizens rights as if it were a legitimate agency was not a good move. Neither was saying the NRA supports the unconstitutional ban on automatic weapons.
Les:
--- Quote from: StuartJ on October 14, 2017, 12:48:56 PM ---I disagree. Treating a bureaucratic agency the purpose of which is to infringe on citizens rights as if it were a legitimate agency was not a good move. Neither was saying the NRA supports the unconstitutional ban on automatic weapons.
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Not sure I understand your vernacular, but the NRA isn't supporting a ban, only allowing ATF to review their previous 2 reviews in which they had no issue with the stocks in question, so probably of little consequence. But time will tell.
hilowe:
Can't remember where I heard this, but I think it was an interview with an NRA underling (it was recorded and played in a podcast I listen to, but don't remember which one).
The reasoning was, ATF has reviewed bump stocks three times already, and found it to be completely legal three different times (and documented by letters each time with letterhead and signautres).
So, throwing it back at ATF requires them to do one of two things.
Find it illegal now, when it's very well documented that it was legal before, embarrassing them in front of everyone, potentially losing them funding because they show themselves to the world to be inept. Second option is (and most likely option), find it legal within current laws. Not sure what the ramifications for the ATF M O U S E is in this second one (potentially gets the lefties in Congress pissed, losing them funding?). Either way, people on the side of gun rights win.
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