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Firearm left in vehicle for the day?
depserv:
When going into or through Illinois just understand that you are not in America; you are in a realm that is under the control of a criminal gang, and you do not have the rights the US Constitution says you have. No one here is going to council you to disobey the illegal edicts of that gang. If you choose to do so it's all on you.
I would point out that America would never have become a nation if our founders had been content to grovel before a tyrant. But that was a long time ago, and we seem to have grown content with our new masters. No act of an individual is going to change that.
The law is on your side, but it doesn't matter what the law says when those who have no respect for the law have the power to put you in jail.
So it boils down to a question of who you fear more, the criminal gang in the state house, or any criminal you might run across on your way through. It's probably safer to grovel and submit to the illegal edict. But there probably isn't much risk either way, as long as you are not stupid in how you do it.
SemperFiGuy:
CLOSER TO HOME:
--- Quote ---LINCOLN MUNICODE 9.36.110 Firearms in Unattended Motor Vehicle; Unlawful.
It shall be unlawful for any person to keep a firearm in an unattended motor vehicle for a
period in excess of twenty-four hours.
The provisions of this section shall not apply to members of the Armed Forces of the
United States, active or reserve, the National Guard of this state, or Reserve Officers Training
Corps, when on duty or training, or peace officers or other duly authorized law enforcement
officers, nor shall it apply to vehicles containing firearms that are parked in locked enclosures or
buildings, such as garages or other storage facilities. (Ord. 18158 §2; April 7, 2003).
--- End quote ---
Read it and Weep
sfg
ILoveCats:
True on the unattended firearm in vehicle law. I dislike meddlesome socialism as much as the next guy. But in practice even if you permanently stored a gun in the glove box or behind the pickup seat (which is unwise perhaps, but that’s another thread) and the car is your daily driver, then it’s never “unattended” for more than 24 hours. I’d be curious to know if that law is ever enforced.
Regarding the original post and travel to Chicano Illinois, I wouldn’t go anywhere the city/state unless perhaps I were truly passing through on the interstate. You either gotta decide to go there unarmed, or don’t go at all. Or perhaps try and get a non-resident CHP if they offer such a thing, but my friends who live in IL say the process is arduous and expensive even for in-state residents.
Ever seen “locked up abroad” on Nat Geo channel, featuring all the idiot Americans who travel overseas, commit crimes, then are shocked to learn that the American constitution didn’t follow them to Ecuador? (And somehow that becomes the American Conulate’s “fault” in the eyes of the idiot tourist and his family.) You better have the same mindset going to Illinois. Perhaps some nice things to do / see there but you are leaving the United States of America so don’t come cryin’ when things go wrong.
Dan W:
LINCOLN MUNICODE 9.36.110 is preempted by state law for all valid CCW permit holders, as are all local ordinances tha exceed state law.
IMHO one of the top reasons to get your CHP is preemption, and the passage of LB68 would extend this protection to all legal firearms owners in the state.
NFOA has prioritzed LB68 and we need everyone to pull together and get over the finish line.
HuskerXDM:
--- Quote from: Dan W on January 07, 2018, 11:14:00 AM ---LINCOLN MUNICODE 9.36.110 is preempted by state law for all valid CCW permit holders, as are all local ordinances tha exceed state law.
IMHO one of the top reasons to get your CHP is preemption, and the passage of LB68 would extend this protection to all legal firearms owners in the state.
NFOA has prioritzed LB68 and we need everyone to pull together and get over the finish line.
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