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One in the pipe?
Kendahl:
--- Quote from: JAK on April 08, 2018, 09:10:54 AM ---Striker fired handguns like the Glock, Smith and Wesson MP, and Kahr's (to name a few) will not fire unless the trigger is pulled.
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In the absence of another safety (e.g. thumb or grip), anything that pulls the trigger, not necessarily your finger, will cause them to fire. A holster that protects the trigger is sufficient but you need to be very careful while holstering.
--- Quote ---With external safeties, like what is on the 1911, there is always the potential for the safety to be accidently disengaged for various reasons.
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It can happen but a thumb safety provides an additional level of security. It takes two unrelated failures to cause a discharge. Consider Sig's problem with the P320 whose trigger had enough inertia to fire the gun when it was dropped. With an engaged thumb safety or a grip safety, the design error wouldn't have mattered.
CrazyGolfNut:
I always have one in the pipe ready to go.
GreyGeek:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on April 11, 2018, 07:35:27 AM ---Once you try to hand-rack the slide on one of those little Mouse Guns (Taurus PT-22, Beretta 21-A),
then you realize why the gun has that Barrel Flipper Lever Thingie.
sfg
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Yup. You need a piece of rubber to get a good purchase. Not convenient for carrying around. I carry a couple rounds in my watch pocket.
eelstrebor1:
My EDC is a Sig Sauer 45 caliber 1911. I carry it in condition 1 even though when I first started carrying I was concerned about the hammer being cocked. I still do, so I carry with the safety on. There's always a chance that clothing could get caught in the trigger and cause a discharge - maybe a fatal event. Because of that, I wonder what impact of having the safety "on"/engaged has in a SD situation. I'm sure that it would take more time to fire but how much more time versus having the safety off?
Waltherfan:
If you're going to carry a 1911 with the hammer back, you'd better have the safety on.
Taking the safety off as you draw (or you can even wait till you're on target) is a simple process. The pistol is designed so your thumb is right where it needs to be to take the safety off. You don't have to be in a hurry to take it off, in fact you shouldn't be in a hurry.
Be safe.
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