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Offline shooter

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2017, 11:13:42 PM »
If this is legal with a smooth bore, why did the Taurus Judge and S&W Governor ostensibly have to be built with a slightly rifled barrel so as to not be a "shotgun"?

 Because the Taurus and S&W are registered as a pistol.  not a weapon,       

   I called a few Distributors.. these things are rare.. no one has them in stock
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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2017, 09:35:31 AM »
That's the problem we face when definitions are not consistent.
And yet more of the non-consistency.   :P  https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/04/25/atf-reverses-position-stabilizing-braces/

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2017, 01:12:21 AM »
Because those are handguns and smoothbore handguns need to be AOWs registered with the NFA this is not a shotgun, it is not a rifle, it is not a handgun, so it's an other firearm.


I predict that the death of this firearm is going to be non sporting purpose of a firearm with larger than 50 caliber bore.
Machinegun owners blow thier load with one pull of the trigger

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2017, 05:04:08 PM »
I saw a video of Hickok45 shooting two of those.   Just out of curiosity i checked 4 Lincoln store's websites, including Thunder Alley. None of them had it listed. Bud's Guns did but was out of stock.  Interesting. Last time I looked they were not shipping it (when they have them) to two states, Now its 7. Nebraska, not there, yet.
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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2017, 07:51:39 AM »
Mossberg has started a trend. Someone posted at a Smith and Wesson forum that Remington is releasing their version.
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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2017, 06:29:46 PM »
So, anything official on the status of these in Nebraska? I have absolutely no use for one....so will probably get it soon.
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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2017, 09:17:34 AM »
     you make your own plug. all it is, is a stick.
Make your own plug.  A pencil cut to the appropriate length works just fine.

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2017, 09:42:55 AM »
If this is legal with a smooth bore, why did the Taurus Judge and S&W Governor ostensibly have to be built with a slightly rifled barrel so as to not be a "shotgun"?
Because it would have been too short and thus classified as an AOW.

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2017, 01:08:14 PM »
Mossberg has started a trend. Someone posted at a Smith and Wesson forum that Remington is releasing their version.

https://www.remington.com/other-products/model-870-tac-14

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2017, 05:28:09 PM »
Omaha gun club has the Remington on their wall right now. I think I remember $295, but it could have been $395. I don't fully remember because I'd rather have the Mossberg.  :-p

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2017, 08:32:52 PM »
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2017, 06:34:00 PM »
Brownells have  them in stock, $369.99.

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2018, 06:02:09 AM »
I saw two Shockwaves at Scheels in Lincoln yesterday.  They had notices on them that purchasing them requires the handgun permit. So apparently in Nebraska they are handguns.
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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2018, 11:44:28 AM »
Did you inquire as to why?  But I guess it isn't any different than walmart requiring the purchase permit for a .22 rifle.  All they have to do is state, "It's company policy"

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2018, 12:20:21 PM »
Pistol Grips and Shotguns

Firearms with pistol grips attached:
The definition of a shotgun under the GCA, 18 U.S.C.
§921(a)(5), is “a weapon designed or redesigned, made or
remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed
or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of
an explosives to fire through a smooth bore either a number
of ball shot or single projectile for each single pull of the trigger.
Under the GCA, 18 U.S.C. §921(a)(29)(A), handgun
means “a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to
be held and fired by the use of a single hand.” Federal law
provides under 18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1), that if the firearm to be
transferred is “other than a rifle or shotgun,” the purchaser
must be 21 years of age or older.
Certain commercially produced firearms do not fall within
the definition of shotgun under the GCA even though
they utilize a shotgun shell for ammunition. For example,
firearms that come equipped with a pistol grip in place of
the buttstock are not shotguns as defined by the GCA.
A firearm with a pistol grip in lieu of the shoulder stock is
not designed to be fired from the shoulder and, therefore,
is not a shotgun. Since it is a firearm “other than a rifle or
shotgun,” the purchaser must be 21 years of age or older.
Additionally, interstate controls apply. The licensee and
transferee must be residents of the same State.
Other questions raised pertain to entries made in the
licensee’s required records with respect to firearm “type.”
These entries should indicate the firearm type as “pistol grip
firearm.”
Age Restriction & Interstate Transfer Reminders
Licensees are reminded that firearm frames, receivers, and
other firearms that are neither handguns nor long guns
(rifles or shotguns) are considered “Other Firearms.” They
cannot be sold or delivered by a licensee to any person under
21 years of age. Additionally, 18 U.S.C. 922(b)(3) states that
a licensee shall not sell or deliver any firearm other than a
shotgun or rifle to any person who does not reside in the
State in which the licensee’s place of business or activity is located;
this restriction includes handguns, pistol grip firearms
utilizing shotgun ammunition, and frames and receivers.

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Machinegun owners blow thier load with one pull of the trigger

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Re: Mossberg shockwave
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2018, 04:59:44 PM »
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