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Bumpstock comment period and FOIA about bumpstocks and LV
RobertH:
if you haven't put in a comment in the newest bump stock comment period, do so! here's a link for some reading: https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/FIREMISSION-DOJ-bump-stock-NFA-rewrite-rule-comments-over-10k-submitted-so-far-/5-2096454/
please DO NOT use a copy/pasted comment. if you do so, all copied comments will be treated as one. so write something original.
next up, ARFCOM's NOLO has obtained a FOIA on the LV shootings. the thread is here: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/-/5-2101566/
it's getting interesting!!
eelstrebor1:
Hmm, I just did a little re-reading of this and I wonder how the ATF states that this is a single pull of the trigger when a semi-auto trigger needs to reset/release after each fired round. The trigger would have to be released/reset before it can fire again which means the trigger has to be pulled again.....right? Of course, the bump stock automates this process but it's multiple pull/release of the trigger. I expect that bump stocks will be classified as machineguns regardless of logical reasoning. All it takes is a re-write of the definition of a machinegun. This should be a legislative action instead of an administrative action anyway. No one would be making these products if the 1986 FOPA hadn't infringed on our right.
eelstrebor1:
This guy, and others, make a really good point. The ATF proposed rulemaking isn't really about bump-stocks, it's about any device or fine tuning of a weapon that'll be potentially banned. This video was really good and wasn't long-winded. So, the real question becomes: At what rate of fire will a mod put a firearm into the machine gun class?
Nettles:
--- Quote from: eelstrebor1 on April 30, 2018, 09:59:08 PM ---So, the real question becomes: At what rate of fire will a mod put a firearm into the machine gun class?
--- End quote ---
Let’s not bother the good people at the ATF with logic. That’s not their job; their job is to build a foundation for a house that’s already built, and it doesn’t need to work, it just needs to look the part. Papier-mâché works as well as concrete for this purpose. After all, they’re not the ones who have to live in the house, so what does it matter to them?
Greybeard:
Excellent information presented in a logical manner.
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