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Bumpstock comment period and FOIA about bumpstocks and LV
eelstrebor1:
I was just looking at this again. The ATF is saying that the bump stock continuous firing is initiated by a single pull of the trigger but it's actually started by the operator using a forward motion on the barrel shroud or handguard which causes the trigger pull. Recoil energy assists in the process but unless forward pressure on the barrel is maintained, the rifle won't maintain continuous firing. Effectively, it's still operating as a semi-auto rifle. So, it's an overreach by the ATF to classify a bump stock as a machine gun. What say you guys/gals?
JAK:
Having read the proposed rule and the twisted rationale that the ATF is using several times,
What the ATF is claiming is that since the trigger finger dose not move each time the firearm fires, that is what makes it a machinegun.
I agree it makes no sense at all, if I apply that same criteria to all guns then the Winchester Model 97 pump-action shotgun is a machine gun because if the trigger is held back it will fire every time the fore end is pushed forward.
John K
eelstrebor1:
--- Quote from: JAK on May 06, 2018, 08:39:17 PM ---Having read the proposed rule and the twisted rationale that the ATF is using several times,
What the ATF is claiming is that since the trigger finger dose not move each time the firearm fires, that is what makes it a machinegun.
I agree it makes no sense at all, if I apply that same criteria to all guns then the Winchester Model 97 pump-action shotgun is a machine gun because if the trigger is held back it will fire every time the fore end is pushed forward.
John K
--- End quote ---
I don't know much about shotguns but if that's the way it works then you could consider it to be a machine gun. Anyway, I'm not sure if making my points will sway the ATF .I was kinda hoping to find a "slam-dunk" argument to refute the ATF's contention that it's a machine gun. Regardless, I suppose that they're going to spin this to get their way. But a bump stock certainly wouldn't be the easiest way to rapid fire. On a machine gun, it's a lot easier to hold a trigger in the pulled position than to maintain forward pressure on the barrel while keeping your trigger finger in a fixed position for a bump stock rapid fire. Hopefully, someone will convince the ATF of their folly.
depserv:
A shotgun is a machine gun, because when you pull the trigger one time multiple projectiles come out of the barrel.
eelstrebor1:
I was shocked to hear LaPierre say that he supports the 2A infringement in regards to machineguns: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nra-ceo-wayne-lapierre-wont-commit-to-backing-bump-stock-bill-tells-atf-to-do-its-job/
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