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Slide Fire ceasing operations May 20th

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Dan W:
The ATF comment period is not a waste of time...it is part of the rule making requirements and not taking advantage of your chance to record your objections only weakens the people's voice...I would compare it to not voting just because you dont like the options.

Unfortunately too many are looking at this like we have already lost, when in reality if every gun owner were to submit an objection the ATF would be overwhelmed with the requirement to read each objection and report the real consequences of the proposed rule and how the people really object to its adoption as well as the monetary cconsequences which by law must be considered and the true number of citizens the rule would effect.

You are free to do as you wish but don't  ask me to condone such a defeatist attitude

FarmerRick:

--- Quote from: Dan W on April 19, 2018, 02:27:49 AM ---You are free to do as you wish but don't  ask me to condone such a defeatist attitude

--- End quote ---

Amen

eelstrebor1:
Since slidefire decided to close it's business rather than take legal action, what does that tell you? If we can successfully challenge the government, who's going to build new bump stocks?  Since it's patented, the patent owner is going to have to transfer or license the manufacturing of new bump stocks to someone else - that is if someone else wants to pick up the ball and run with it. But, if we lose the battle, then the other devices will eventually succumb to the same fate. I don't like to be negative but I'm being realistic.

eelstrebor1:
Hmm, turns out that one doesn't need a bump stock to do bump fire. I'll have to try some of those techniques. But, I hope the ATF doesn't ban pants with belt loops since that's one of the techniques used to bump fire. I've seen bump fire done without assistive devices also.

And I've seen a video where rapid fire of an unmodified semi-auto AR15 (fast pulls and releases of the trigger) was compared to a semi-auto AR15 equipped with a bump stock, simultaneously. There was less than a 1 second difference in firing 10 rounds.

And I saw a video interview of one of the senior ATF agents, that OK'd the bump stock back in 2010, that said that legislative action by Congress, not a regulatory process by the ATF, is necessary because the ATF is trying to change the definition of a machine gun as defined in the NFA. I'm not a lawyer but can you say "legal challenge"? Probably won't make a difference except more taxpayer dollars being used to defend against such challenges. The argument that's being made to support the attitude that it's a machine gun is that it it takes just one pull of the trigger to start the repetition but on the other hand the trigger has to be reset and then pulled again to keep the process going. Is that one function of the trigger or multiple functions? Bump fire isn't as easy as it looks because not many of the people in the videos could consistently keep the rifle bump firing.




And the research continues........

Hardwood83:
I am about as interested in complying with new gun regulations as the Feds and many state Govts are in complying with Amend 2.

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