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Jito463:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/39931/breaking-democrats-introduce-bill-eliminate-ryan-saavedra

So, the new Congress is in session, and they're already trying to tear down our Constitutional protections.  A bill has been introduced to end the Electoral College, and have Presidents elected by popular vote.


--- Quote ---Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) introduced two bills on Thursday, one to eliminate the electoral college and the other to prohibit presidents from pardoning themselves or their family members.

A press release from Cohen's office stated that the "senior member of the House Judiciary Committee, introduced two Constitutional Amendments today on the opening day of the new Congress. The first would eliminate the Electoral College and provide for the direct election of the President and Vice President of the United States. The second would limit the presidential pardon power by prohibiting presidents from pardoning themselves, members of their families, members of their administrations and their campaign staff."
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And here's something completely unexpected (/sarc), the bill was introduced because Hillary lost.  Yes, they actually said that.


--- Quote ---"In two presidential elections since 2000, including the most recent one in which Hillary Clinton won 2.8 million more votes than her opponent, the winner of the popular vote did not win the election because of the distorting effect of the outdated Electoral College," Cohen said. "Americans expect and deserve the winner of the popular vote to win office. More than a century ago, we amended our Constitution to provide for the direct election of U.S. Senators. It is past time to directly elect our President and Vice President.”
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The sad part, I actually have a coworker that thinks the EC is "broken" because it gives equal power to less populous states.  Personally, I firmly believe we need to get rid of directly electing senators.  It's the primary reason the power of the states has diminished compared to the federal government.

While I don't see this bill going anywhere presently, it's worth noting the direction the Dems want to take this country.

eelstrebor1:
I doubt any of this will get past the Senate. If it does get through the Senate, Trump will probably veto it. But, you never know for sure until things happen. Republicans need to stand their ground but they often cave. I don't even know why I bother voting anymore.

LJUnaTIC:

--- Quote from: eelstrebor1 on January 04, 2019, 10:53:38 AM ---I doubt any of this will get past the Senate. If it does get through the Senate, Trump will probably veto it. But, you never know for sure until things happen. Republicans need to stand their ground but they often cave. I don't even know why I bother voting anymore.

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Think we would be better off right now with a Dem majority in the Senate and Hillary Clinton in power , not to mention 2 more leftists on the Supreme court?

To quote you again " Republicans need to stand their ground but they often cave."

Kendahl:

--- Quote from: eelstrebor1 on January 04, 2019, 10:53:38 AM ---I doubt any of this will get past the Senate. If it does get through the Senate, Trump will probably veto it.

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These are proposed amendments to the Constitution. The President isn't involved at all.

Congress can propose an amendment by a two thirds vote in both the House and the Senate. Another way is for two thirds of the states to call for a constitutional convention but this has never been used. (I hope it never happens because it would open Pandora's box.) A proposed amendment must be ratified by at least three quarters of the states. With a total of fifty, it takes only thirteen to block an amendment indefinitely. The process is demanding because you don't want to alter the basic law of the land without nation wide approval. Even so, it's not foolproof. The 18th and 21st amendments, which enacted prohibition and then repealed it only sixteen years later, are an example.

Les:

--- Quote from: LJUnaTIC on January 04, 2019, 12:00:38 PM ---Think we would be better off right now with a Dem majority in the Senate and Hillary Clinton in power , not to mention 2 more leftists on the Supreme court?

To quote you again " Republicans need to stand their ground but they often cave."

--- End quote ---

They do...and have.

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