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Walmart joins culture war against 2nd Amendment (Bans all Handgun ammo and more)
Jito463:
A Wal-Mart in Kentucky has banned a man nationwide from all stores, just for open carrying a handgun in their store. They not only called the cops on him, then banned him, but they also made him sign a document affirming that he knows he's banned from all stores. This despite them (allegedly) not having any signs up stating one cannot open carry.
Personally, I'd carry that as a badge of honor. Maybe even make up a bumper sticker promoting that.
"I was banned from all Wal-Marts for legally and safely carrying"
eelstrebor1:
I wonder what they would have done if the guy refused to sign the document. I'd be on the phone to my lawyer first. What happened to that guy was an overreaction. Anyway, I've already stopped shopping at WalMart. There's plenty of other places to shop even though others are saying they don't want OC in their store either. No problem, I CC. Until they post no weapons signs altogether. If so, I'll have to do all of my shopping online or by proxy. Anyway, I always like to watch Colion's videos.
Kendahl:
Walmart and others are a symptom of a social attitude rather than a cause. Today, I came across this article about overprotected children: https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-overprotected-kid?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Although the article was directed at children, the attitude it describes has become valid for adults, too. Modern people have become as obsessed with safety as the Victorians were about sex. The goal is to wrap everyone in protective padding so that it's impossible for them to injure themselves. Banning firearms, because they can do harm if misused, is an example. So are self-driving automobiles (which aren't as safe as their advocates claim.) I wonder when they will get around to motor racing (which has become much safer since the cars have been turned into padded cells on wheels), skiing (sliding down a mountain on a pair of 1x4s doesn't strike me as very safe), horseback riding (you're trusting your life to an animal several times your size and strength) and pet dogs bigger than a toy poodle (no more German shepherds, etc.)
The "safety first" mantra reminds me of the definition of an efficiency expert -- someone who knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing. I also remember a naval aviator's distinction between dangerous and unsafe. Something is unsafe if your only protection is dumb luck. A dangerous activity isn't unsafe provided you understand its failure points and take effective precautions against them. Guns qualify as dangerous but, as long as you adhere to the four basic safety rules, they aren't unsafe.
Jito463:
Deeper down the rabbit hole it goes. Turns out Wal-Mart is in cahoots with Bloomberg and Everytown for Gun Safety, which is seemingly why they introduced the recent ban on open carry. They're a charter member of the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership, in conjunction with Everytown. It appears like this has been in the works for a while, and the recent shootings just gave them an excuse. Skip to 2:30 if you just want the specifics without the preamble.
--- Quote from: Kendahl on September 18, 2019, 06:31:07 PM ---The goal is to wrap everyone in protective padding so that it's impossible for them to injure themselves. Banning firearms, because they can do harm if misused, is an example. So are self-driving automobiles (which aren't as safe as their advocates claim.) I wonder when they will get around to motor racing (which has become much safer since the cars have been turned into padded cells on wheels), skiing (sliding down a mountain on a pair of 1x4s doesn't strike me as very safe), horseback riding (you're trusting your life to an animal several times your size and strength) and pet dogs bigger than a toy poodle (no more German shepherds, etc.)
--- End quote ---
Or as I like to call it, the Nanny State Syndrome.
--- Quote from: Kendahl on September 18, 2019, 06:31:07 PM ---The "safety first" mantra reminds me of the definition of an efficiency expert -- someone who knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing. I also remember a naval aviator's distinction between dangerous and unsafe. Something is unsafe if your only protection is dumb luck. A dangerous activity isn't unsafe provided you understand its failure points and take effective precautions against them. Guns qualify as dangerous but, as long as you adhere to the four basic safety rules, they aren't unsafe.
--- End quote ---
Very good distinction, and one well worth repeating. Crossing the street is inherently "dangerous", but it's not necessarily unsafe if you follow the laws and common sense.
StuartJ:
Have Walmart or CVS in Nebraska posted no weapons signs? I haven't been to either lately.
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