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Offline KonaXL

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new ATF 2021R-05 rule,5/7/2021
« on: May 21, 2021, 02:25:32 PM »

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I just complete this survey through firearm policy coalition. My understanding FCP is routing your message to ATF through their system.

I still plan to write as well.

Have you all done this yet?  You really should!
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/definition-frame-or-receiver/summary

Heres the main page at ATF.  If you note that if you sent in a hard copy with cover sheet, your address and personal details won't be included in the public record.  Whatever you put in the body on the letter will be retained though.

Please write and share your respectful opinions, and represent a 2A stance here.

Thanks
Kona

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Re: new ATF 2021R-05 rule,5/7/2021
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2021, 03:48:02 PM »
Pardon my negativity but, it's kinda hard to be respectful when this is obviously born out of an ideological position. Just like bump stocks, they're going to push this forward no matter how many of us are opposed to it. And it really doesn't make anyone safer but they're not truly interested in safety. I need to go see if Colion Noir has put out a video on this yet.
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Re: new ATF 2021R-05 rule,5/7/2021
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2021, 05:41:36 AM »
Keep in mind that all comments become part of the official record and has to be addressed.  They also come into play during any lawsuits regarding this.

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Offline KonaXL

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Re: new ATF 2021R-05 rule,5/7/2021
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2021, 03:34:18 PM »
Hey Guys

Good points on those fronts there.  Yep, its ideologically driven and about control.  Understand wanting to say what you think, unfiltered.

Also, the address thing. Yep.  Definitely a deterrent to wanting to write.  If you write a hard copy in, and put your address on the front sheet, they aren't going to scan it in to the public record.  Just the body of your comments.

So what are you guys going to write in, or what are your thoughts here?

Kona

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Re: new ATF 2021R-05 rule,5/7/2021
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2021, 05:34:22 PM »
Federal  Register/ Vol.  86,  No.  97 / Friday,  May  21,  2021 / Proposed  Rules
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2021-05-21/pdf/2021-10058.pdf

It is a giant word salad of redefined words covering a 2nd Amendment poison, apparently triggered by ghost guns and 3D printers.    Form 4473 and other documents permanently stored:  "This rule also proposes to amend 27 CFR 478.129 to remove language stating that FFL dealers and collectors need only keep A&D Records and ATF Forms 4473 for up to 20 years following the date of sale or disposition of the firearm. The proposed changes would require Federal firearms licensees to retain all records until business or licensed activity is discontinued, either on paper or in an electronic format approved by the Director,..."  Why?  Because "guns last a lot longer than 20 years"   How convenient for confiscation.

"B. Executive Order 13132 This proposed rule will not have substantial direct effects on the States, the relationship between the Federal Government and the States, or the distribution of power and responsibilities among the various levels of government. This rule is not intended to supersede State requirements unless there is a direct and positive conflict between them such that they cannot be reconciled or consistently stand together."

What about the 10th Amendment?  "The 10th Amendment states that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
The Constitution does NOT delegate to the Federal government, or its agencies, the right to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment.  But that little problem hasn't bothered politicians for 90 years.  There is a movement among several states to return to Constitutional Carry and to forbid the enforcement of infringing Federal laws within their borders.  Nebraska should be in that group.


"... manufacturers may wish to submit samples to ATF for classification of one or more particular components as the frame or receiver so that they need only mark a specific part or parts of a weapon, rather than all qualifying parts (see Section II.H.10 of the preamble) or obtain a marking variance (see Section II.H.6 of the preamble)."

In other words, manufacturers would need to get pre-approval from the ATF for new designs, via "classification",  before making them for sale.  But, the ATF says that its decision whether to classify or not an item voluntarily submitted is entirely discretionary.  Say goodbye to new gun designs.    Now, adding to that, the person Biden has submitted as the new head of the ATF is a rabid Marxist revolutionary (the Democrats call them "activists") named David Chipman.    IF you want to destroy the 2A then he is your man.   Biden lost two previous runs for the presidency because he was caught plagiarizing and lying.  But during his 3rd run his lying isn't a problem.  Neither is his senility.  It is obvious someone else is pulling the strings to our puppet president.  IF Harris can hold out until Jan 24, 2024 she'll be eligible for 10 years as president.  IF she is forced to replace Dementia Joe before then she'll have only 6 years to kill our Republic.

If you want to make a comment here are the rules:

"C. Submitting Comments

Submit comments in any of three ways (but do not submit the same comment multiple times or by more than one method). Hand-delivered comments will not be accepted.

    Federal eRulemaking Portal: ATF recommends that you submit your comments to ATF via the Federal eRulemaking portal at www.regulations.gov and follow the instructions. Comments will be posted within a few days of being submitted. However, if large volumes of comments are being processed simultaneously, your comment may not be viewable for up to several weeks. Please keep the comment tracking number that is provided after you have successfully uploaded your comment.

    Mail: Send written comments to the address listed in the ADDRESSES section of this document. Written comments must appear in minimum 12-point font size (.17 inches), include the commenter's first and last name and full mailing address, be signed, and may be of any length.

    Facsimile: Submit comments by facsimile transmission to (202) 648-9741. Faxed comments must:

1. Be legible and appear in minimum 12 point font size (.17 inches);

2. Be 81/2? x 11? paper;

3. Be signed and contain the commenter's complete first and last name and full mailing address; and

4. Be no more than five pages long."
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Offline KonaXL

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Re: new ATF 2021R-05 rule,5/7/2021
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2021, 08:54:43 PM »
Great points, GreekGeek!