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Offline Lmbass14

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Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« on: September 25, 2021, 08:47:26 AM »
Very disappointed.  Fortenbury votes no.

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2021293

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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2021, 01:12:25 PM »
Don Bacon is more worried about making sure Raytheon gets paid than our rights

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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2021, 04:22:22 PM »
I don't know what was in the bill but I wonder what does red flag law have to do with national defense? I noticed Smith voted yea also.
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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2021, 06:37:43 PM »
I did find this, haven't read the bill, guess that's not needed.

Rep. Matthew Cartwright (D-PA) introduced U.S. House Appropriations Bill 4505, otherwise known as the Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2022.  While the bill's title sounds pretty pedestrian, its contents however are not. Appropriations bills are massive spending and funding bills that determine how the Federal government allocates money.

Within this appropriations bill lies provisions of major concern. Within the body of the bill is a call for $40,000,000 of taxpayer money to go towards "an incentivization program for red flag and gun licensing laws. Apparently, it is the opinion of some in Congress that they need $40 million to trample on the due process rights of their constituents.  As if that weren't bad enough, there is an additional $10,000,000 allocated to "a pilot program for gun buyback and relinquishment".

And that isn't the end of it, H.R. 4350 (FY22 National Defense Authorization Act) has funding for Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders, gun confiscation directed at those serving in the U.S. Armed Forced. These orders lack even the barest HINT of due process! Military Court Gun Confiscation Orders would “restrain a person from possessing, receiving, or otherwise accessing a firearm.”

If you are uncomfortable with your taxpayer money being used to promote these gun control measures, please use FPC's take action tool to write your legislators to tell them to oppose this fiscal insanity.  Once you take action, you will find that FPC has provided you with a pre-drafted email to send to your elected officials. We encourage you to personalize and edit this email prior to sending.

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/oppose_anti_gun_fy22_appropriations

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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2021, 10:23:08 AM »
I can’t believe both Bacon and Smith voted for this bill!  Thank you for the links.
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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2021, 02:05:50 PM »
An update on NDAA and Red Flag language - from conversations with Bacon's team and our other representatives, this language was to be stripped from the get go. The anti's have tried this before to hold up critical legislation with these ridiculous add-ons.  We will continue to monitor to ensure the final bill does not include it 
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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 09:40:04 AM »
"Protects are nuclear deterrence"

Is it too much to ask that our elected officials have proper grammar?

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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2021, 12:38:07 PM »
CONSTITUTIONAL LAW 101 – DUE PROCESS What is “Due Process”?
TO: all County Sheriffs and all U.S. Marshals FROM:
cc: all Federal and State elected and appointed servants RE: Your Duty to know and enforce the Law
DUE PROCESS: “No person shall... be deprived of life, liberty, or property without ‘due process of law’;
[5th Amendment] a similar provision exists in all the state constitutions; the phrases ‘due course of law’ and
the ‘law of the land’ are sometimes used; but, all three of these phrases have the same meaning; and, that
applies conformity with the ancient and customary laws of the English people or laws indicated by
parliament...” Davidson v. New Orleans 96 U.S. 97, 24, L Ed 616.
“‘Due course of law’ is a phrase synonymous with ‘due process of law’ or ‘law of the land’ and means law in
its regular course of administration through courts of justice.” Kansas Pac. Ry. Co. v. Dunmeyer 19 KAN 542.
JUSTICE: “In the most extensive sense of the word, it differs little from virtue for it includes within itself the
whole circle of virtues; justice, being in itself a part of virtue, is confined to things simply good or evil.”
Bouvier's.
AT LAW: “This phrase is used to point out that a thing is to be done according to the course of the common
law; it is distinguished from a proceeding in equity [under statutes].” Blacks 4th
.
COURT OF LAW: “...a court proceeding according to the course of the common law and governed by its
rules and principles as contrasted with a ‘court of equity’ [statutory court].” Blacks 4th
.
“Law in its regular course of administration through courts of justice is due process.” Leeper v. Texas, 139,
U.S. 462, II SUP CT. 577, 35 L ED 225.
“It is not a little remarkable that... this provision [due process] has been in the Constitution for the United
States’ 5th Amendment as a restraint upon authority.” Lent v. Tillson 140, U.S. 316,10SUP. Ct. 324, 33 L. ED 722.
“Due process of law and the equal protection of the laws are secured if the laws operate on all alike and do
not subject the individual to an arbitrary exercise of the powers of government.” Duncan v. Missouri, 152, U.S.
382,14 SUP. CT. 570, 38 L. ED. 485.
“The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no
law; but, is wholly void and ineffective for any purpose since its unconstitutionality dates from the time of its
enactment... In legal contemplation, it is as inoperative as if it had never been passed... Since an
unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no right, creates
no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed
under it... A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to
supersede any existing law. Indeed insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the land, the
Constitution, it is superseded thereby. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are
bound to enforce it.” Bonnett v. Vallier, 116 N.W. 885, 136 Wis. 193 (1908); Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425
(1886).
CONCLUSION: All rights are protected by due process which is the restraint upon government. It is the duty
of the Sheriff & U.S. Marshal to make sure due process is met before incarceration; and, to recognize when it
is not. All village, town and city courts which proceed according to statutues are not common law
Constitutional courts. Any State or Federal Court proceeding upon statutes instead of Law are acting under
the color of law; and, all officers in such courts are acting in concert and are guilty of felony conspiracy. It is
the duty of the Constitutional Law Enforcement Officer, a/k/a Sheriff or U.S. Marshal, to arrest the officers
acting under color of law; and, to seek an indictment. Failure to do so is felony rescue.
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Re: Rep. Bacon votes for Red Flag law.
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2021, 06:12:28 PM »
It was announced on the NRA website that the anti-gun amendments have been stripped from the bill as it passes to the Senate.