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Should gun permits be easier?
quixnet:
FarmerRick
A permit of some kind is not the deciding factor of whether I do good or bad things with any weapon I may carry on my person. My morals and values are the deciding factor, not some silly card.
I WILL do what I can to protect myself and my family, if and when necessary. Would I like to learn those things? Sure, that would be great. Do I see a possibility for that in my future? Doubtful.
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Look, I'm sure you are a great person with impeccable morals and values. I agree that a permit of some kind is not the deciding factor of whether you do good or bad things with a gun. That being said you are saying to the public in this day and age to "trust me (and everyone else in the state)".
It's like saying I've never been a bad guy and even if I was once, I promise I won't do it again. I have a whole gang of friends that will attest to my good character...
Yes, it would be ideal if everyone including myself could train more. No, it doesn't make any person less worthy of the right of self-defense. But this does not negate the responsibility we have to continue to practice, improve and continue to learn. What will happen if you or I need to defend ourselves or our your families and the bad guy is 10 times better then we are?
Maybe you are a crack shot. Maybe you will naturally do all the right things? What about the others? Will they miss and hit some child down the street, your child, your wife? I'll bet that would go over well in the news.
What if I missed and hit my daughter while trying to protect her? That would be it for me...
This is nothing to screw with and frankly I can't believe what I'm hearing. Someone shoots my daughter, they won't be surprised at how fast and accurate I can be, they won't know what hit them.
Please... make the time. You need to be able to stop it before it happens but, you are responsable for every round you fire. Once it has left your barrel... it can't be recalled.
AAllen:
Both sides are correct on this. We should not need to have permits, we have the right to keep and bare arms. But with rights go responsibilities, amongst those are the responsibility to know what you are doing. I would also challenge everyone that we also have the responsibility to teach. Through teaching the next generationand even those who may be from our generation to be resposible firearm owners we accomplish many things.
The problem we have is to few firearm owners take the time to teach someone to be a responsible firearm owner, and that causes the unsafe, inexperianced people the instructors speak of to be out there on the streets. Just like we have irrsponsible hunters ect. we have the same with firearm owners.
All of use weither instructor or weekend plinker need to take the time to teach someone else to safetly handle and use firearms. If we meet someone on the range that appears to be strugleing take the time to help ect.
Once the public see's that firearm owners are responsible for their actions and their message the ability to step back and say we don't need training or permits becomes a valid point. Until then we need a way to be sure that those who CCW understand their responsibilities.
bkoenig:
Well said. We all have the responsibility to teach others about safe and responsible firearms use. Not just our kids, but friends, relatives, coworkers, etc.
Dan W:
We, as citizens, also have the responsibility to regain the freedoms we have lost, restore liberty and preserve it for the future.
Resigning ourselves to infringement of the right to defend ones life does none of those things.
We have come to this point, debating the worthiness of some people to defend their lives with firearms, because of the liberties we gave away in the quest for security, or had taken from us, by our government, with it's never ending hunger for more power
The demonization of firearms, and the people who own them, has resulted in several generations of citizens that fear the defense of life with a firearm more than their own death.
Even in the midst of a man choosing to save his own life and the lives of many others during a robbery, we, his supposed supporters, argue about the piece of paper he had in his wallet.
With the right piece of paper he is a hero, and with the wrong one, a criminal...
I say, paper, or no paper, training, or no training, that man had a right to act in a way that makes all this irrelevant.
A right that did not come from a piece of paper...but one that comes from God, that predates the United States and it's constitution. That overrules the State of Nebraska.
One that does not need our permission to exist. A basic right of Natural Law
DanClrk51:
Well said Dan W.!
Quixnet:
Well I disagree with the courts then about their "reasonable restrictions" because that can mean anything to anyone including a complete firearms ban.
No court, state, or individual has the right to judge who can bare arms and who can't. Everyone has a God given right to self defense. The act of owning and bearing arms in itself hurts no one because it is a passive, neutral and defensive action. What hurts people is when one misuses a weapon by using it offensively or negligently.
That is why no permit should be required or mandated by the state or anyone. Instead why don't we just punish the guilty rather than punish the innocent along with the guilty.
If someone uses a gun to rob, rape, and murder then we need to hold them accountable for the robbery, the rape, and the murder not for carrying a gun. If someone is a "good guy" and carries for protection and is faced with a threat and shoots at a "bad guy" even though there was a crowd of people behind the bad guy and the good guy knew this and a bullet hits a bystander, he should be held accountable. But this should also be done within reason. One must take into account the possibilities of what could have happened if he had done nothing.
Lets hold people accountable for the actions that actually cause others harm and not punish people for victimless crimes such as "carrying a concealed weapon".
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