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Flat top AR question.
Roper:
I have a 20" DPMS w/ iron sites and have hit iron targets at 300 yards. Also have a Smith and Wesson M&P, I seem to be able to put a tighter pattern together with it. Good luck w/ your first one, they are a lot of fun to shoot!!!
m0par:
--- Quote from: Dan W on July 13, 2010, 07:47:49 PM ---You would still need to upgrade the trigger on a factory Colt, as they are no better than any other GI item
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You ain't just whistling dixie. I bought one Colt lower and it has the worst trigger I've ever felt in an AR. Plenty adequate for its intended use though, I'm sure.
KGillen:
Well, I have narrowed it down to 2 options. Either the Colt or build my own, I'm looking at an Armalite complete lower with a 2 stage match trigger, and a Bushmaster 20" flat top upper. The thought of building it excites me as well as the fact that it has standard pins...but then again, the Colt is a Colt.
SeanN:
Only two brands I ever tell people to stay away from are Olympic Arms and Hess/Blackthorne/Vulcan (changed their name more times than anyone can count because their product is so terrible).
I have a Bushmaster and it's treated me well. But, if I could do it all over again, I'd go for a Bravo Company, Spike's Tactical, or Daniel Defense rifle. Why? Full mil-spec or better on every single piece. Does the average user need that? Probably not, but it certainly is nice to have it if the proverbial s**t hits the fan. Also, they're about the same price or slightly more expensive. Why not get the best quality you can for your dollar?
A few links for your viewing pleasure:
Bravo Company 20" Barreled Upper Receiver: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M16-Government-20-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-gov-20.htm at $385.00
Add the bolt carrier group and charging handle on the same page for $135.00.
Rifle Length Handguards: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/rifle-Length-Handguards-Black-p/handguards%20rifle%20length%20black.htm for $19.95
Bravo Company Complete Lower Reciever: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Lower-Receiver-Groups-M4-AR15-s/117.htm for $360 with A2 fixed stock or M4 collapsible stock
Comes out to about $900 and it will be one of the best darn AR-15's you'll ever own in your life. What more can you ask for? :dink:
Edited to say I think you should really go with the A2 fixed stock with a 20" barrel build. Firstly because it's probably going to be more comfortable/natural with such a long barrel and secondly because it will come with the rifle buffer tube and buffer instead of the carbine buffer tube and buffer. I imagine it would function "ok" with the carbine ones but it may not. The carbine tube and buffer were designed for the 14.5" M4 barrel and work well up to about 18". 20" barrels with rifle length gas systems could potentially have some problems unless you go with a heavier carbine buffer (H3 or Spike's ST-T2 would be about the same weight of the standard rifle buffer).
Famous556:
--- Quote from: SeanN on July 20, 2010, 03:19:44 PM ---Only two brands I ever tell people to stay away from are Olympic Arms and Hess/Blackthorne/Vulcan (changed their name more times than anyone can count because their product is so terrible).
I have a Bushmaster and it's treated me well. But, if I could do it all over again, I'd go for a Bravo Company, Spike's Tactical, or Daniel Defense rifle. Why? Full mil-spec or better on every single piece. Does the average user need that? Probably not, but it certainly is nice to have it if the proverbial s**t hits the fan. Also, they're about the same price or slightly more expensive. Why not get the best quality you can for your dollar?
A few links for your viewing pleasure:
Bravo Company 20" Barreled Upper Receiver: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M16-Government-20-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-gov-20.htm at $385.00
Add the bolt carrier group and charging handle on the same page for $135.00.
Rifle Length Handguards: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/rifle-Length-Handguards-Black-p/handguards%20rifle%20length%20black.htm for $19.95
Bravo Company Complete Lower Reciever: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Lower-Receiver-Groups-M4-AR15-s/117.htm for $360 with A2 fixed stock or M4 collapsible stock
Comes out to about $900 and it will be one of the best darn AR-15's you'll ever own in your life. What more can you ask for? :dink:
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This is the best advice in this thread. BCM rifles and parts are top notch, I have been playing with my new BCM 16" barrel upper with a mid length gas system and the quality is superb. They do everything right and don't take shortcuts anywhere like some other manufacturers. All of that to the tune of $900 and you can't go wrong.
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