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JimP:

--- Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2007, 06:11:06 PM ---
While, I personally don't agree with carrying empty-chambered, I know that many people do. I wasn't calling you out on it. This is one of those subjects that has the potential to get heated. It is a personal thing and I think that as long as you practice OFTEN with your preferred method of carry, you'll be OK. My biggest hang-up with your method is I don't like having to rely on needing both hands. As my wife will tell you, I constantly preach situational awareness, and hope to never let a bad guy get so close to me that I have to use my weak hand to create distance, but I have also seen some great videos on how fast a knife yielding bad guy can close up a considerable distance. It's not that racking the slide adds that much more time to what it takes to draw and point, but I might need my other hand to protect myself or to hold the attacker off of me.


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This subject- carrying in condition 3- does get quite heated, but I don't understand why. It's not like I'm taking a sledge hammer to kittens or telling someone else that they are doing it wrong and should have their guns taken away....... it's just the way I do it.

JimP:

--- Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2007, 06:11:06 PM ---
That being said, it would be un-nerving to have had the safety dislodged. Did the hammer actually drop? I can't imagine what would have caused that if the weapon fit properly in a quality holster.


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No, the hammer did not fall, as the grip safety would have to be depressed or fail, and the trigger have to move or the sear/hammer hook fail or...... it's not very likely, but it has happened........
It Is VERY UN-NERVING to ME. The thought of an explosion powerful enough to propel a 230 bullet THROUGH a human body CONTAINED betweem my jeans and my tighty-whities....... is well, I don't want to think about that.

As for what caused it, I think its a combination of a soft IWB hoster that the gun rides very low in, and an extended thumb safety. Both of my carry guns have them, and I will remedy that as soon as I can. I think they are unnecessary. When I am in complete confidence I won't shoot myself in the behind, I'll carry locked and cocked. But for now, I have adapted my tactics and training to the tools at hand.

On that note, I'll have to relearn my drawstroke when I start carrying in condition 1. I'll have to remember the thumb safety, which I don't even use now......

JimP:

--- Quote from: Jay on October 17, 2007, 06:11:06 PM ---
Oh, and just for the record, I carry a DA/SA. I figure the heavy trigger pull of the first shot will not affect my accuracy enough to make a difference in a defensive situation.

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You'd be suprised how much the change in trigger pull affects probability of first round hits............... watching some of the DA/SA guys shoot at IDPA, I suspect some are using what Col. Cooper called "the shot-cock system"- just flinging the first round downrange unsighted to get the gun into single action mode. I'm fine with this, so long as their misses don't hit an innocent bystander (particularly if it's me or mine). I wouldn't do it, as I believe to my core, that I am responsible for all bullets that leave my barrel. That said, it is an imperfect world, and some thing s can't be helped. You make your choices the best you can and live with them the best you can.

Jay:
The DA pull no doubt affects accuracy, but here is my thinking on that:

Most self-defense shots are within a distance of a few feet. Even in a stressful event, I can't see my marksmanship being so greatly affected that merely the difference in trigger weights will cause me to miss a COM shot at three feet. More than likely, my adrenaline would be pumping so much that I probably wouldn't even notice it. If I needed to take a shot at a far enough distance that I needed more precise accuracy, then more than likely I'm already running and searching for cover instead of engaging in a shootout. If I'm already behind cover and need to return fire, then I should have time to manually pull back the hammer and fire the first shot from SA mode. I might even get lucky and be close to my vehicle or my home, and in that case, I guarantee you I'm losing the handgun for a rifle, anyways. No matter how you look at it, handguns are a poor choice for engaging a threat. I like the saying that a handgun is what you use to fight your way to your rifle.

We both know we can talk about this until we are blue in the face, but when it comes down to actually being faced with a life a death situation, everything changes. This is why I don't get too riled up when someone prefers a different method of carry than I do. Pick what you are comfortable with, PRACTICE with what you carry and how you carry it, and pray that you will never have to use it.

JimP:
I did the the one handed draw and rack drill this afternoon........ first with the 5"(it has been awhile, but I got better) and then with the EMP (FAILURE  :o)...... the Novak style rear sight  and full length guide rod have defeated me...... the heel of my shoe worked, but was slow as hell.... the force required to rack the slide is greater than my 5".......

The EMP's safety is stiffer....... I'll test it for a while before carrying C&L.... that appears to be the only option.

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