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SBarry:
Check out the Kahr CW9 or CW40, or step up to the smaller PM9 or PM40. They aren't much bigger than a 380. They need about 500 rounds through them to break them in, but are a great gun.

Any gun is better than no gun, and I don't know anyone who wouldn't back down from even a 25.

But why does this gun have to be an autoloader? The best gun for new shooters for self defense is a snub nose 38. Always ready to go, no safety to mess with, always one in the chamber, no slide to pull back, same double action trigger pull unless the hammer is manually pulled back. If I had a woman, and she had very little experience with a gun, she would be carrying a 38 until she had mastered the weapon of HER choice.

joemerchant24:
9mms can shoot with less recoil than most .380s.

Small .380s like the PPK are blowback operated, which transfers more recoil. Even delayed blowback guns like the LCP and P3AT don't have much mass to eat up recoil.

A small 9mm on the other hand has stiffer recoil springs and more slide mass.

Stay away from 147gr +p+ screamers and the ladies may find the 9mm to be easier to shoot.

sjwsti:

--- Quote from: SBarry on November 03, 2010, 11:11:36 AM ---Any gun is better than no gun, and I don't know anyone who wouldn't back down from even a 25.

--- End quote ---

Im going to have to disagree with you there. This is simply something you say to yourself or someone else to help them feel better about their poor choice of gun. "Hmm, nice HiPoint. Hey its better than nothing...??"

Since there is no such thing as a crystal ball you really have no idea what level of evil you may be faced with. Are there citizens who have been sucessfull defending themselves with .25s, yes. Does simply threatening deadly force sometimes make the bad guy run away, sure. But there is no guarantee this will be the result.

Not long ago I transported a young man in the rescue squad who had been the victim of a shooting. This is a common occurrence in the part of Omaha I work in. According to him this was the fourth time this had happened to him. I can be fairly certain that he has been in more gunfights than most of us on this board, has been wounded multiple times and keeps going back for more. You think your going to intimidate this guy by pointing a gun at him? No way. You better be prepared to shoot him to the ground before he murders you. Your equipment and your skills need to be up to task. Anything less and you are living in denial.

- Shawn

Mudinyeri:
I'd second the Kahr CW9.  I have a CW40 and it's probably a bit much in the recoil department for anyone who's recoil-sensitive.

bkoenig:
After talking it over with my wife we're going to go with a compact 9mm of some kind for her.  The reason it "has" to be an automatic is my wife doesn't like revolvers.  She thinks they're ugly.  I know it's silly, but I figure it's better to buy a gun she likes and will practice with than something that may be a little more practical but will sit in a safe and never get used.  Plus, all of my wife's shooting experience is with autos.

I'm most likely going to get a revolver for my mom, though.  She really needs something thats absolutely simple.  Probably a .38 of some kind that's heavy enough to soak up some recoil.

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