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Castle Doctrine discussed
RobertH:
here's the video in case you have not seen it on my other thread....
omaharj:
Great job Chris! I would have been much more confrontational (and therefore the WRONG person to speak).
.... a couple of things I thought about
1.) I would like to minimize any "West Nebraska" "East Nebraska" talk This is reasonable legislation to ALL reasonable Nebraskans.
2.) Why all the discussion about various escalating "combat" situations? I thought the standard was "imminent with means and intent" It sounds like those against this want to muddy the water with what ifs. I would stress that anyone using the Castle Doctrine as a guide OUTSIDE THE HOME will have undergone training to have a CCW. Ask if they have any questions on training.Inside the home,no CCW is required and this bill will ELIMINATE VAGARIES. If a Bad guy enters your home he's wrong. Period. As far as going after people after the fact, that's not our call. That's for the police.
Once again,great job Chris. I'm not posting to tell anyone what to do. Just trying to get dialogue going and working out phrasing of what I want to say to people who may discuss this with me. Thanks RJ
Chris Z:
Senator Christensen made the East / West comment.......... He was just pointing out that there seems to be a different level of thought between the two. Unfortunately the left minded knuckleheads seem to dominate the legislature.
Council will never support any such bill and she will just continue bringing up what ifs? I think we have some very level minded folks that are on the right side here (some more discussions happened with the Legal Counsel for the Committee and a couple Senators after the actual hearing was over).
The majority of NE Firearms owners do not have a CCW permit. People who don't have a permit should be able to defend themselves outside the home.
Bill:
As Chris said, open carry is legal in Nebraska so don't automatically assume anyone carrying is a CCW holder. I personally have had occasion to be armed, but I don't have a CCW. Although, personally, anyone who intentionally escalates a situation, or attacks someone who's clearly armed is not thinking clearly.
Once you get past North Platte going West, there is a much higher incidence of people having firearms in their possession even outside the home and I doubt most of those people would bother with a CCW permit.
I think Chris is exactly right. Council will never support the legislation and will muddy the waters as a delaying tactic. I watched the testimony last spring, and this session and her comment about someone being able to use force on someone in their backyard is a mischaracterization at best. McGill is going to be the silent resistance, in that she won't say a word during the meetings (was she even there today?) but will vote against it, all the while being non-committal to her constituents.
omaharj:
Living in Omaha I sometimes forget that open carry is allowed elsewhere. I'm embarrassed. Still, SHE represents an Omaha district and you need training to open carry here. That point could be brought up and perhaps you could offer to show her the CCW training in full as a way to answer her many "What if's?" If she agrees,she won't tie up the hearings with side crap. If she doesn't take you up on it, you can call her on it. RJ
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