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NE Bull:
We it sounds like the Montana folks nuilt some leway into the state law and the school had set precedence with previous incidents, that she was sure to be allowed back in school.  That's the thing with laws, there has to be some 'wiggle room' to adjust to the circumstances at hand. 
As i was checking up on this, I did notice a couple more of these type of happennings across the nation, of students inadvertantly leaving a hunting rilfe/ shotgun in there car at school.

Someone correct me if my source is wrong, but it was explained to me that federal law states that you cannot 'discharge' a firearm in or on school property, does not make reference to 'carrying' a firearm on school property.  My source if a family member who worked for a school district and hosts CCW classes back home. This info was given to him by a retired LEO who instructs the classes. Any merit it?  (I know that many states have put in effect laws that tighten up where the feds left off, but...)

ScottC:
At both my kids' schools (Jr & HS) they can't even have something with firearm references on it (words or pictures). 

For example: if it says "Winchester" without anything else it's ok; but if it says "Winchester Firearms" or shows a picture of a firearm they can't have it there.

It's pathetic.

flatwater_go:
I'm asking this question as a fairly new NFOA member.

"What is NFOA's role in the Scottsbluff incident?" 

Will the NFOA board of directors review this to see if a call to action is warranted?  Should a NFOA position be developed and a press release be sent out?  Should NFOA members individually contact their State Senators to make sure that they are aware that this incident is happening?  Should the NFOA approach other groups such as Ducks Unlimited and Pheasants Forever to educate and activate their respective memberships in hopes of getting this law modified or repealed?

justsomeguy:

--- Quote from: NE Bull on December 16, 2010, 08:28:24 AM ---

Someone correct me if my source is wrong, but it was explained to me that federal law states that you cannot 'discharge' a firearm in or on school property, does not make reference to 'carrying' a firearm on school property.  My source if a family member who worked for a school district and hosts CCW classes back home. This info was given to him by a retired LEO who instructs the classes. Any merit it?  (I know that many states have put in effect laws that tighten up where the feds left off, but...)

--- End quote ---

Look into the Federal Gun Free School Zones Act revised 1995.
It appears that unless you are a CHP holder in your own state, even transporting an unloaded firearm to the range would violate Federal law! (unless in a locked container) There are K-12 schools everywhere and firearms are not allowed anywhere near them, even on public roads.

AAllen:
Flatwater, You are asking the question that has been running through my mind for the last week, "Should the NFOA play a role in this?"  Unfortunately there has not been enough information given for me to be able to give an answer.  Nebraska Law and the School policy at Scottsbluff require the student be immediately expelled.  But the Superintendant of in this case with an appeal to the school board can adjust the punishment to fit the violation.  It is the students? family that needs to decide if they wish to appeal the expulsion, if they do I can write an editorial that lays groundwork for support.  We can write letters to the School Board trying to sway their vote.  We can get as many members as possible to the School Board meeting to support the appeal.  But unfortunately there is one basic news story reprinted in multiple different papers with no real news other than the shotgun was on school property and the Superintendant feels that a one year expulsion is appropriate.

If anyone has more information, I have read the school rules and student handbook from Scottsbluff, we would be supportive of an appeal.  But I cannot force one, nor can I "shame" a superintendant into changing the punishment he has given without one.

I have had several conversations with Senators about the "Zero Tolerance" policies and their problems.  They all point out that they have set the expulsion as a guideline and that local School Boards and Superintendants have the ability to make decisions to lessen the punishment.  They feel that this puts the control on the local people involved to make the best decision for their community and for the particular situation they are facing, and I agree that at that local level is where this needs to be taken care of and they have the power to do something, but without the family involved wanting to do something there is nothing we can do to help.

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