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So are the opponents of school carry arrogant or just plain stupid?
sjwsti:
--- Quote from: bugsdad on February 23, 2011, 02:17:08 PM --- So I guess my point is, where is the differece between a teacher carry at school and a average citizen carrying on the street? I can't see any. Can someone enlighten me?
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I would say that it would depend on what you think the role of an armed teacher is.
I am of the opinion (some will disagree) that armed staff would have a responsibility to provide security for themselves and the students. The training requirements should be of a higher standard than what is required for a CCW because of the added responsibility.
If you believe that the staff has no obligation to defend anyone but themselves then your right. There is absolutely no difference between them and the average citizen.
And if that is the case why are Teachers so special? Why would we support a law that singles them out for CCW on school grounds? Every CCW holder should have that right. Im sure there are plenty of Doctors, pizza delivery drivers, mechanics, city workers etc.. who would like to carry at their place of employment but are restricted also.
- Shawn
HuskerXDM:
--- Quote from: sjwsti on February 23, 2011, 03:17:22 PM ---And if that is the case why are Teachers so special? Why would we support a law that singles them out for CCW on school grounds? Every CCW holder should have that right. Im sure there are plenty of Doctors, pizza delivery drivers, mechanics, city workers etc.. who would like to carry at their place of employment but are restricted also.
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I guess my response to this would be: anywhere we can recover our Constitutional rights, we should. I totally agree it should be the same for everyone, but since it's not, we fight the battles as they come up.
I'm a teacher, and just want CCW for myself. However, if someone wanted me to get further training, I would do it because work is the only place I regularly go and can't defend myself.
DaveB:
So teachers that would want to conceal carry in school have never held a gun? I have an uncle that was a teacher and has been around guns all his life. He is totally for this. Saying that teachers don't have the experience needed may just not be true, and they are probably smart enough to know that. If they would like some situational training on top of what they know, that would be great, and how many do you think would turn it down? I would love to see that type of training for teachers done at no cost to them too. Let the teachers decide what's right for them, I'm all for them having all of the rights owed them.
sjwsti:
--- Quote from: DaveB on February 23, 2011, 06:58:58 PM ---I have an uncle that was a teacher and has been around guns all his life.
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I have to chuckle everytime I hear this cause Im not sure what it is supposed to mean. I ve been around food my whole life, doesnt mean I know how to cook :)
--- Quote from: DaveB on February 23, 2011, 06:58:58 PM --- Saying that teachers don't have the experience needed may just not be true, and they are probably smart enough to know that.
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Unless they have had active shooter training or were involved in a previous career that involved that type of training how would they? Its certainly not rocket science but its not intuitive either.
And that brings us back to what do you think they are responsible for? Themselves and the students or just themselves.
- Shawn
HuskerXDM:
Well let's confine the debate to this bill then. We would be responsible for ourselves.
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