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So are the opponents of school carry arrogant or just plain stupid?
sjwsti:
--- Quote from: jthhapkido on February 24, 2011, 08:52:03 PM ---It allows a certain class of people to defend themselves and others as they choose in school, just as they would outside.
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Thats the problem. Only extending the right to carry to "certain classes of people" isnt something I can get too excited about.
Cant argue with much else that you have said.
Its absolutely a moral issue not a legal one. Im well aware that there is no law that requires you to put yourself at risk for anyone else.
Never said teachers should form into teams, move to the sound of gunfire and engage an armed assailant. But the issue of how to properly defend your classroom during a lockdown should be something pre-planned and prepared for. Again, not rocket science, but it is an added responsibility that isnt covered in a CCW class.
- Shawn
NE Bull:
I know there are still teachers that care, but with the accountibilty policies in place these days, I would have to wonder if today's school faculty/staff would step-up when/ if the situation arose.
Just recently my daughter stepped on a nail in the snow at the school just before lunch. As the school could not reach her mom or step-dad, I was called and drove from Lincoln to west Omaha to pick her up, the issue I had was that the school nurse wasn't there, and they refused to pull out the nail and soak the wound. I even asked if I could authorize someone to take her to the doctor's office just down the road and I would meet them there. NO! Needles to say, my daughter spent almost 2 hours (school and doctors office) with a nail in the heel of her foot because of 'policy'? ???
Then, just yesterday, one of my son's classmates has an epileptic siezure. Her mom (who I know) was notified after 2min that they had called EMT. By the time she got there they had arrived and luckily she came around. Scary thing was, even with the educating her mom has tried to give the school, poor little girl's body was shut down for at least 5 minutes and NO CPR was attempted. :'( ??? (Hell, I work in a factory, and I'm trained as a 1st responder in first aid, CPR, and AEDs, including seizure victims).
I hate to bash teachers,etc. but some issues of late I have seen or been involved with, I'm not sure the schools would care to defend themselves/ others unless (like all this testing they do) it got them more money from the state.
sjwsti:
The back and forth has been entertaining but purely acedemic I believe.
NE Bull is right. By and large your talking about a group of people who tend to be very liberal and left thinking. Obviously not all as we have several educators in this forum who are pro gun and pro CCW.
This bills chances of becoming Law are slim to none. And if it did, having a provision that each school distict would have to aprove it, what school board would allow it?
I would like an honest opinion from one of the educators following this. If this bill became law how many teachers at your place of employment would actually carry on a daily basis? Dont get me wrong, just because a small number of people would carry doesnt mean its not important for those that want to, just curious is all.
- Shawn
HuskerXDM:
Shawn,
I work at a building with roughly 75 staff members that would be included in your hypothetical. I know that three of us would carry.
JTH:
Shawn said:
--- Quote from: sjwsti on February 25, 2011, 11:00:06 AM ---NE Bull is right. By and large your talking about a group of people who tend to be very liberal and left thinking. Obviously not all as we have several educators in this forum who are pro gun and pro CCW.
This bills chances of becoming Law are slim to none. And if it did, having a provision that each school distict would have to aprove it, what school board would allow it?
I would like an honest opinion from one of the educators following this. If this bill became law how many teachers at your place of employment would actually carry on a daily basis?
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I think the chance of this bill becoming law at this time is zero. :P And I can't think of any school board I know that would approve it for their school district.
I see this comment from many people all the time: "By and large your talking about a group of people who tend to be very liberal and left thinking." ---and one of these days I'd like to see someone actually state that from a position of knowledge, i.e. based on a study, or actual statistics. I'm not arguing it, I'd just like to know to what extent it is actually true. I have a lot of liberal coworkers. I also have a lot of conservative coworkers. So I'm curious...
I can't answer your question for my entire school district as I spend almost no time in any of the other schools, but in my particular building (out of approximately 65-70 staff members) I'd say maybe ----two.
At least one, though. :)
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