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So are the opponents of school carry arrogant or just plain stupid?
sparky0068:
--- Quote from: NE Bull on February 17, 2011, 06:47:39 PM ---I feel for ya, I tried to open discussion at work also, and I just end up so frustrated over the ignorance that I just "whatever" and walk away. Folks can be so closed minded, that open debates are just impossible these days.
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I believe we had a discussion about this such thing and we both had the same ideas.
Mudinyeri:
Fear ... largely fear of the unknown.
smkndave:
I thought I would give my 2 cents on this issue. I have mixed feelings on this, I feel anyone who has a permit to carry should be able to carry anywhere not just teachers. My concern is who will take the classes and who will actually carry, I dont feel that everyone who takes the classes to carry are truly prepared to pull the trigger if the need would arise and there for give the person breaking that law another firearm to continue with what the set out to do.
JTH:
--- Quote from: smkndave on February 22, 2011, 02:45:48 PM ---I dont feel that everyone who takes the classes to carry are truly prepared to pull the trigger if the need would arise and there for give the person breaking that law another firearm to continue with what the set out to do.
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So, you don't think that everyone should be able to concealed carry if they want to? Should we have some sort of "readiness test" to see if people will actually pull the trigger? I'm not sure I understand your problem.
Of course there are some people who may not actually be able to go through with it. Does this mean they somehow lose the right to be prepared on the chance that they could?
And what does this have to do with teachers carrying? Since "some people" (a group rather undefined) might not be able to pull the trigger, no teacher should be able to continue to carry effective tools for self-defense?
I'm not trying to be snarky, here---I just really don't understand how this relates to the topic of teachers able to continue carrying while on school grounds. It sounds as if you have a problem with the topic of concealed carry in the first place, which is something else entirely.
bugsdad:
When this bill was first introduced I was a little bit on the fence on wether I thought it was a good idea or not. So before I gave my opinion I did some research and talked with some administrators I know and did some reading. This is the conclusion I have come to on the topic. I am in support of this bill. What really is the differece between an average citizen that has taken the 1 or 2 day class and shot a 30 round qualification course, carring his or her firearm in the Westgate mall or Walmart or a teacher that has taken the same course and met the same requirments carrying their firearm at school.
Now could a school administration or school board require that their staff that want to carry take some kind of refresher training annually or some form of advanced training before they can carry on the school grounds, I dont think that is unreasonalbe and if a teacher or any person, for that matter, who wants to carry a firearm for protection should actively seek out advanced training and practice drills as regular as possible anyway.
The school administrators that I have talked to are against having their staff carry a firearm. They would rather have police officers or a private security officer ( who are mostly retired cops anyway) be the only ones on the property that are armed. Granted they are going to have a much higher level of training and a little better odds of hopefully ending a situation peacefully, however if a student, or disgruntled employee or just a plain old maniac , is hellbent on shooting the place up, then talking isn't going to do a lot of good.
So I guess my point is, where is the differece between a teacher carry at school and a average citizen carrying on the street? I can't see any. Can someone enlighten me?
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