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My first "Official Contact" with Peace Officer while carrying

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DaveB:
I want to know why he asked for your license and registration? If you are not driving I don't think it was necessary. Of course, you have to give them what they ask for to avoid confrontations and to make sure they don't get their little power happy ego damaged.

I have been stopped twice for DOT inspections, both times I told the officer I had a permit and was armed, both times I was thanked for telling him and off he went to check my vehicle. Not once did they ask a single question about where it was or what it was. Both times I made it through with no infractions.

Kansas is a different story, spent several hours in Belleville one dark night waiting for a speeding ticket with a legal gun in the car.

Clint:
Yeah, also just wondering, if it is in the vault, why is it not secured to the seat or to the vehicle somewhere? And if it is locked up but NOT secured to the 'frame' of the vehicle, it's not really concealed, is it? Unless that cable is secured, it's really not 'legal' in some places, is that right? Of course it may depend on if you have a license and/or where you were at. Maybe it depends on the cop also? Just wondering, need to look at the rules again.

sparky:
The "why is it not secured to the vehicle, or inaccessable" issues wasn't really what I was trying to start a conversation about but since it was brought up here is how it went.  At the time my car stalled out I was carrying it on my hip IWB. I turned on my emergency flashers and started walking for a gas station, got a can of cas came back and put it in the car and still would not start, called my wife and got her headed my way and while I was waiting I placed my firearm in my vault under my seat and unhooked to cable that secured it too the car so that once my wife arrived I could get down and hook the chains up, get it pulled off the street and then when I leave with her I would be able to just grab my vault and head out and go. The officer arrived several minutes after I had placed it in my vault. 
That is the play by play.

FarmerRick:

--- Quote from: sparky on May 29, 2011, 03:02:47 PM ---The "why is it not secured to the vehicle, or inaccessable" issues wasn't really what I was trying to start a conversation about but since it was brought up here is how it went.  At the time my car stalled out I was carrying it on my hip IWB. I turned on my emergency flashers and started walking for a gas station, got a can of cas came back and put it in the car and still would not start, called my wife and got her headed my way and while I was waiting I placed my firearm in my vault under my seat and unhooked to cable that secured it too the car so that once my wife arrived I could get down and hook the chains up, get it pulled off the street and then when I leave with her I would be able to just grab my vault and head out and go. The officer arrived several minutes after I had placed it in my vault. 
That is the play by play.

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Got it, thanks.  That all make sense to me.

bullit:
Would have been interesting if the officer had asked you to open the gun vault, as then the line gets real fuzzy and you have a decision to refuse to open or not.....in short he would need to be very assured of his "reasonable articulable suspicion" or "probable cause".  Otherwise, consenting by you by opening or giving him the combo would be his only legal means of seeing what's inside. 

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