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Lmbass14:
Was wondering if anyone would know what would cause the tearing of the cart.  I have a sig P238 HD, which was sent back to sig May 19,11 due to FTF, FTE, stove pipes (won't load Cor-Bon ammo at all). Sent the casings and end of boxes to sig as well. 

Noticed the tearing after the first clip.  At first I thought the cart. came from the person next to me at the Bullet Hole, then changed my mind after the next round.  I used Win. white box and  Rem, green box.  Shot a total of 200 rounds straight, the problems started within the first 50 rounds.  The gun was clean before going to the range.  Saved the casings and showed it to the folks at the BH, Guns Unlimited, Cabela's and no one have seen this before.

Sorry for the crappy photo, it's from my phone camera.

Thanks in advance.

Bernie

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Mudinyeri:
Any marks on the slide of your pistol behind the ejection port?

Will your extractor rotate slightly - maybe 5°?

Dan W:
That looks like the slide is closing down on the brass before it can escape the ejection port and crushing it!

Lmbass14:
Thanks for the rapid reply. 

Mudinyeri - wish I'd thought of checking for marks and any play in the slide before sending it back to Sig. :-(

Dan - That's a real good thought.

Thanks again.

Bernie

Dan W:
Load 1 round in a magazine, insert magazine, load the cartridge into the chamber, leave the empty magazine in place, fire the gun...does the slide move fully to the rear and lock open on the empty magazine?

If not the pistol may be short stroking. Causes could be weak ammo, excessive recoil spring tension, excessive friction or resistance to free movement of the slide ( binding ) 

If it does lock back as it should, inspect the brass for your issue. How far away did the brass fly?  A tight extractor or a weak ejector can keep the brass from clearing the ejection port properly.

Try to eliminate some of the variables and your Sig dealer will have an easier time with the diagnosis, but in my opinion they should have already done all that I described


a quick google search found that their are lots of problems with the P238 model

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