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OnTheFly:

--- Quote from: Dan W on October 11, 2011, 12:08:44 PM ---Simple, yes but it costs me another hour of my time to get the notary to sign off.



ETA I already have to take time off from work to get it done

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I would be happy to compose a letter as an individual to the Nebraska State Patrol laying out the redundancy, but I was hoping someone in the NFOA might have a rapport with the NSP.

Fly

Dan W:
Contact Chris Z

Chris Z:
I have emailed the question to someone I know, that knows someone, that knows someone.... I will post the reply when I get it.

My suspicion is, this is just a technicality..... A requirement to CYA on the state patrol's side. For example if someone lies on, or falsifies their application I would guess the fact that they signed it in front of a notary would stand up in court a little better than the clerk at the counter of NSP would......

People have a difficult time following instructions.... At every single class I teach, I instruct everyone right away and multiple times... "DO NOT SIGN THE APPLICATION, YOU MUST SIGN IT IN FRONT OF A NOTARY".... And guess how many times I have someone bring their application up and say, "Uh I guess I didn't listen well, I already signed this"????????? Almost every single class there is at least one.

I am guessing by requiring the application to be notarized, it is helping the clerks at the NSP office by giving them a clear black and white line...... Its either signed and notarized or its not.

Otherwise, every single day the clerks would deal with... "Oh come on, just take it, I just signed it"....... Then if there is something wrong or falsified, the clerk could not honestly testify that they watched the applicant sign it.


Heck, maybe I'm overthinking it.... Maybe there is no real good reason it is done... But I'll post the answer when I get it!

Dan W:
My real problem with the rule is that it is not required by statute, yet NSP rules that it is, while on the other hand the NSP refuses to change a signage rule without specific language in the statute.

Either the NSP has the power to make up the rules or they do not...choose one and stick with it

OnTheFly:

--- Quote from: Dan W on October 11, 2011, 08:10:09 PM ---My real problem with the rule is that it is not required by statute, yet NSP rules that it is, while on the other hand the NSP refuses to change a signage rule without specific language in the statute.

Either the NSP has the power to make up the rules or they do not...choose one and stick with it


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Chris Z...I bet you are right.  I can see them coming up with that answer.  Hopefully, they are not a member on the forum so they now know how to answer the question.  ;D Considering how people are, I can see this as a legitimate CYA policy.  I would probably come up with the same policy myself after dealing with several applicants who wanted me to accept the form when they did not sign it in front of me.  With this rule, it is on the notaries shoulders to enforce the rule.

Dan W...I agree with your statement.  Let me also add (and I know this may sound lame and cheap on my part) that I don't like anyone making up a rule that adds to the expense of me exercising my rights.  Whatever a notary charges ($5, 10, 15?), it is not fair that I have to tack this on to my bill.

Fly

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