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Open Carry in Omaha with CHP regarding registration

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DanClrk51:
Bullit,
I agree 100% with what Mudinyeri said, but to answer your question:

The point is to show the public that guns are not bad. My intention is to normalize guns in public society as they once were. Its about regaining lost ground, and affirming our rights so that through the exercise of such we do not lose these rights. Its about turning the tide back from where we were in the 90's when guns were heavily demonized.
And it would be nice to get Nebraska to be like South Dakota, Arizona, Alaska, Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Kentucky & North Carolina where open carry is COMPLETELY legal and there is full state preemption and you don't need a permit to open carry either.

The other pluses to Open Carry are:
-Deterrence (strong visual deterrent)...granted not all criminals will be deterred by this if they are armed and stubborn
-Quick draw/easy access to gun
-It is currently summer and very hot and humid, carrying a gun concealed is not very comfortable right now and also exposes the gun to sweat and thus there is danger for rust to appear.

Now as far as the cops are concerned i don't think it would be legal for OPD to charge me with "Disturbing the peace" "Disorderly Conduct" for doing something that they even admit is completely legal. And on the facebook link mentioned above the OPD rep. stated that:

"We would send an officer to check if someone reports a man with a gun because there wouldn't be any way for anyone to tell if you had a ccw permit or not.
If you were legal we would send you on your way and hit back into service."

"If you are a law abiding citizen and follow officer's instructions and the officer doesn't have any other reason, such as information from 911 dispatch that you pointed your gun at another person then they will ask for your ccw information and you will be on your way. Officers have to justify their actions and have to have reasons to "put people on the ground." Any time they use force they have to complete reports that are reviewed by their command officers and receive discipline if they acted inappropriately."

OPD's answer seems to indicate that they will not charge you with anything if you have a valid CCW permit or Omaha Firearm ID Card (Open Carry permit).

As far as disordlery conduct is concerned: I just don't see this fitting into the defined category:

http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientID=10945&stateID=27&statename=Nebraska

According to Omaha Municipal Code Chapter 20 "Offenses" Article III "Offenses against the Public Peace" Sec. 20-42. - "Disorderly conduct" is defined as follows:

It shall be unlawful for any person purposely or knowingly to cause inconvenience, annoyance or alarm or create the risk thereof to any person by:
(a)Engaging in fighting, threatening or violent conduct; or
(b)Using abusive, threatening or other fighting language or gestures.

(Code 1980, § 20-42)
State law reference— Regulation of disorderly conduct, R.R.S. 1943, § 14-102(22).


So, if all the above is true then the only thing we have to be harassed with is the two cops that will show up to check on you if someone has a freakout about your gun. Which of course is a hassle and a harassment since it is a legal action to carry openly. Hence why we need to eventually push for full firearm preemption across the state so that Omaha can no longer require a permit to carry openly and that cops cannot stop you unless there is reasonable suspicion that a crime is taking place. 911 operators will need to ask detailed questions from the person who makes the "Man/Woman with gun" call and if the information is that the gun is holstered and the person is not threatening anyone, or taking the gun out of the holster and waving it around at people, then the cops should ignore it at that point.

Now you have most of my thoughts on this  :D

bullit:
I have no argument with either of you.  I fully support your right to OC.  My point is my opinion.  I further agree with what I surmise is your feeling about Disturbing the Peace being a bogus charge.  True, but it will still potentially cost you big bucks and a lot of time to prove a point.  As a visual deterrance that can go both ways....may ask for trouble from a real bad guy who will ambush you first before robbing the Qwiky Mart....kind of like wearing Tacticool clothing.  May make you more of a target to bad guys in the know.  My last two cents....don't OC in Omaha if not willing to face such.  Again, personal perogative

Mudinyeri:

--- Quote from: bullit on July 28, 2011, 01:16:31 PM ---....may ask for trouble from a real bad guy who will ambush you first before robbing the Qwiky Mart....
--- End quote ---

In 30+ years of paying attention to such stories, I can't recall a single one where a perp attempted to take a gun off the hip of a private citizen.  I'm not saying it hasn't happened but I'm certainly at a loss to find any sort of empirical evidence that it's a serious potentiality.

I'm not suggesting that it's an impossibility.  It COULD happen.  I just think the likelihood is far less than having your guns stolen out of your home, or out of your vehicle or ... you get my point.

Most criminals are looking to prey on the weaker members of society.  A handgun on your hip does not convey the message that you are one of society's weaker members, IMO.   ;D

bullit:
We're on the same page...unless it is the crazed terrorist Wulfgar from the movie "Nighthawks"  :)

Mudinyeri:

--- Quote from: bullit on July 28, 2011, 03:19:43 PM ---We're on the same page...unless it is the crazed terrorist Wulfgar from the movie "Nighthawks"  :)


--- End quote ---

+10 for the Nighthawks reference.  LOL

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