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First Aid after an encounter

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DaveB:
My feeling is that by calling 911, I am rendering aid. I am not a doctor, a nurse, or an EMT. I would rather not be sued for him dying because I did something wrong trying to keep him from dying. Besides, I wouldn't shoot anyone unless they were attempting to kill me, or mine.

JimP:

--- Quote from: DaveB on August 28, 2011, 09:39:41 PM ---My feeling is that by calling 911, I am rendering aid. I am not a doctor, a nurse, or an EMT. I would rather not be sued for him dying because I did something wrong trying to keep him from dying. Besides, I wouldn't shoot anyone unless they were attempting to kill me, or mine.

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Now THERE is a sticky wicket for me, were the incident to happen in my Fire District: I am a liscensed EMT (volunteer) there, and so would have a Duty  to render aid, until I could turn him over to someone with equal or  greater medical training....... that'd sure suck: put 2 to CoM on a guy beating me with a stick and then have to do CPR on him all the way to UNMC........  more dilemmas: so often I roll out of bed or drop whatever it is I am doing, to go and "save" those who won't help themselves by not doing the dumb stuff that gets them in trouble.  Sometimes I think some of these folk would benefit more from a swift kick in the pants than a ride to a hospital.........

Kendahl:
Rendering first aid after the threat has been neutralized should not negate your justification for self defense. It's comparable to holding fire because your assailant backed off when he realized you were armed and no longer posed a threat. Call 911 before starting first aid and then make absolutely sure the guy cannot hurt you.

First aid for a sucking chest wound is to seal the entrance and exit (if there is one) so that the lung doesn't collapse before surgeons can make permanent repairs at the hospital. The guy still may not survive, but first aid definitely improves his chances. As a Good Samaritan, you are protected as long as you provide the best treatment you are able.

JimP:

--- Quote from: Kendahl on August 28, 2011, 10:30:29 PM ---First aid for a sucking chest wound is to seal the entrance and exit (if there is one) so that the lung doesn't collapse before surgeons can make permanent repairs at the hospital.
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Sort of..... You secure an occlusive  dressing (like saran wrap) on 3 sides, so that when the pt. inhales, it sucks flat and seals the hole, preventing more air from entering the chest cavity, and opens upon exhalation, pushing air (and/or blood)  trapped in the chest cavity out the hole ....... allowing the chest to inflate the lungs ............... 

unfy:
Old topic, I know.

Been thinking about it as time has gone on.  I think I'll avoid rendering first aid - there just seems too many ways that intent could be blurred if ya put your hands on someone after the fact (even if attempting to save their life). 911 is probably the best bet ... I have no official training ... and ... I don't think in that kind of situation I'd be in any situation to render useful aid to anyone :( .

Thanks for the responses guys!

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