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Offline DanClrk51

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California: Governor Jerry Brown Signs Three Anti-Gun Bills into Law
 
Tuesday, October 11, 2011
 
On Sunday, California gun owners and sportsmen were dealt another blow when Governor Jerry Brown signed into law three anti-gun bills (AB 809, SB 819 and AB 144) and vetoed a fourth (SB 427) only because there is a pending lawsuit, according to his veto message on the bill.  The Governor did sign one pro-gun bill (SB 610) into law.

Below is a description of each of the bills Governor Brown signed into law.  AB 144 and SB 819 will take effect on January 1, 2012.  AB 809 will take effect on January 1, 2014.

Assembly Bill 809  will require the registration of any newly purchased long guns. Not only does AB 809 violate Second Amendment rights by expanding California’s gun registry to include rifles and shotguns, it is also a huge waste of taxpayer money at a time when California is drowning in debt. Gun control advocates estimate the cost of this registration at $400,000, a number that is almost certainly far less than it will actually cost to implement and enforce this registry if enacted. The only value of registration is to help governments confiscate firearms in the future.  To view Governor Brown’s signing message, click here.

Senate Bill 819 allows the Department of Justice to use the Dealer Record of Sales (DROS) funds to help pay for enforcement of California firearm possession laws in the Armed & Prohibited Persons Systems program. The DROS fund monies were originally collected from every firearm purchaser to pay for the administrative process for background checks.  This new law will divert hundreds of thousands of dollars of DROS fee monies that YOU have paid for background checks.  As a result, the DROS fund will run out of money and when it does, they will want another increase in the fees YOU PAY for FIREARM background checks in California.

Assembly Bill 144 bans the open carrying of an unloaded handgun.  In reality, the open carrying of firearms by law-abiding citizens is caused by California’s unfair concealed carry laws, which allow citizens from one county to apply for and receive a permit while neighbors in the next county are denied that basic right in an arbitrary manner.

Senate Bill 427 was vetoed by the Governor. Unfortunately, the only reason he vetoed this bill was because of the pending lawsuit against its predecessor, AB 962.  Not once did the Governor mention how this bill will negatively affect California gun owners, sportsmen or retailers.

This bill would have granted authority to law enforcement to collect sales records from ammunition retailers, required ammunition vendors to notify local law enforcement of their intention to engage in the business of selling ammunition AND includes a list of calibers which would have to be registered to purchasers at the point-of-purchase.  This list contains ammunition popular among hunters and collectors. This point-of-sale registration of all ammunition purchases in the state would be available for inspection by the California Department of Justice at any time. To view Governor Brown’s veto message click here.

As noted above, Governor Brown did sign one pro-gun bill (SB 610) into law.

Senate Bill 610 standardizes the application process for a permit to carry a concealed handgun and removes the requirement that a CCW applicant obtain liability insurance as a condition of obtaining a CCW permit.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?id=7129

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Re: California Governor Jerry Brown signs three anti-gun bills into law
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2011, 07:02:01 AM »
It's California.  What else can ya expect?
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Re: California Governor Jerry Brown signs three anti-gun bills into law
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 08:48:37 AM »
I grimace when I hear about these laws and regulations being passed. That is because I am a Nebraskan hearing about Californian laws.

I usually forget that this is what Californians want. They must, otherwise this stuff wouldn’t get through their government.

Am I wrong?

They can do whatever they want s long as they don’t leave their State once it becomes suffocating to live in.

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Re: California Governor Jerry Brown signs three anti-gun bills into law
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 10:55:19 AM »
I grimace when I hear about these laws and regulations being passed. That is because I am a Nebraskan hearing about Californian laws.

I usually forget that this is what Californians want. They must, otherwise this stuff wouldn’t get through their government.

Am I wrong?

They can do whatever they want s long as they don’t leave their State once it becomes suffocating to live in.

You are not entirely wrong- there is a LOT of retardation in Kalifornistan. This is quickly confirmed by reviewing their congressional delegation: Feinstein, Boxer, Waxman, Maxine Waters....it's like a horror movie cast. However, I am certain there are a lot of decent people there too- and they are held hostage by the idiots. It's kind of like judging Nebraskans based solely on the politicians from Lincoln & Omaha. Someone is electing Suttle & Ashford but it sure ain't me!

The other aspect is historically California has been an indicator for the rest of the country culturally & politically. Not sure that is still as valid, but not good that the largest state in the Union is fast becoming a literal socialist state.
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Re: California Governor Jerry Brown signs three anti-gun bills into law
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 07:45:33 PM »
... just in time for some guy to walk into a hair salon in Seal Beach and shoot 8-9 people.

I'm sure he was carrying legally ... NOT!

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Re: California Governor Jerry Brown signs three anti-gun bills into law
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2011, 08:14:41 AM »
... just in time for some guy to walk into a hair salon in Seal Beach and shoot 8-9 people.

I'm sure he was carrying legally ... NOT!
This will make an excellent argument about why the open-carry ban simply isn’t enough. The only way to stop this is to ensure that no one has a weapon. Until that happens, your children are at risk.