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i want to bring in allot of firearms from california.
dark 45:
as the " high cap" goes i am speaking of 90 round 100 round drum mags, the quotation makes where in jest of the notion that 30 round mags are high cap.
i live in friend.
i am not sure if the no more then 19 firearms is just California law i thought it could be federal as well 20 or more then becoming an "arsenal of some description.
i think i am technically still a citizen of California for now and there are forms in which to switch registration over from father to son/daughter. i was thinking it would fall under me bringing my firearms with me into the state of Nebraska as i have not been here or set residence with a Nebraska drivers licence or utility as of yet. as most you could call me being here a vacation seeing if i want to move here witch i now do.
i have not shipped weapons through ffls before is there a fee per weapon? if so that is going to be problematic. as there are allot of handguns, to the point where there are multiple of the same firearm. i believe the number to be around 30 handguns, 25-30 riffles and shotguns.
the ammo spans across a 50 foot wall in the garage. crates of assorted calibers. it is from gun show hording, remember its California so when laws are set we buy everything before its taken away such as the .50 bmg ammo back in 05'.
as far as class 3 weapons there are none, the only one being of any concern is the tec 9 with the threaded barrel to except the extension. everything else fall under "scary" semi auto handgun or riffle. the mac 10 and ar 15s for example.
the California assault riffles are of concern in the fact you cannot even posses them out side of your home with out the paperwork deeming them yours. i think i remember seeing some where i can be in position of them with his paperwork while transporting them to be brought of of the state with some extra DOJ paperwork.
the will i believe is there leaving me most of everything i am not sure if it has been changed since his recent marriage but i know the firearms would still be left to me in any case.
the way i remember looking at this was i could go to California pick up the none "assault riffles" taking those with me right away.
the handguns i wasn't sure, in California if i was to keep them more then 30 days i would have to have them transferred to me via a form with registration change. but if i went to any other state i would just bring them in as my handguns i already owned previously. as i would have acquired them before becoming a resident of Nebraska as i have yet to legally do.
the California assault weapons where my main concern as how to go about bringing them here because once they are cross state lines they magically turn to plain ol' rifles, and i think my father would have to send in form stating he no longer has those weapons.
my father won't be visiting me out here and doesn't want much to do with the process to get rid of them as he knows little of today's laws and has little time to do things when he dose leave the house.
so as i understand it, i have to have the handguns sent to a ffl here in Nebraska once they are registered to me in California, the non California assault riffles i can take with me on the first trip. and the California assault riffles i have no idea where to go with those, as most ffls in California don't even want to set eyes on them even with the proper paperwork there.
i have paranoia with weapon law as well, more so then most having lived in California. the stories i could tell about bullet buttons and monster man grips ammo laws, its astounding people still buy firearms in that state. i just want to do it legally even if it means selling a few to finance multiple trips.
FarmerRick:
Well, in my opinion: If you are still officially a California resident, you need to decide if it is easier(and cheaper) for you to transfer the guns in California under their laws before you move, or to become a Nebraska resident then have everything shipped to an FFL here and pay a transfer fee on each one.
There is no restrictions on transfer of ownership of the ammo, just pack it up and go.
AAllen:
With the number of handguns you re talking about transferring my guess is that a friendly FFL would give you a discount to make it reasonably priced for the transfers, but they will charge something for their time.
SemperFiGuy:
Dark 45........
One very direct approach to this situation might be to start with a complete list [by manufacturer, model, caliber, etc.] of all the firearms that you intend to move from California to Nebraska.
Then call a local BATF office--maybe in both states--make appointments, go sit down with BATF agents and determine clearly, exactly, and precisely which detailed steps need to be followed in order to transfer them from California to Nebraska.
Yes--of course--you'll be dealing with the Evil Authorities and giving them disclosures that we'd all rather not disclose.
But--infinitely better to do so before the move takes place than afterwards. If you have to deal with them after the move takes place because federal and/or state laws have been broken, even inadvertently, then............Bye, Bye Guns. And maybe Bye, Bye you.
Prime Example: The Exotic Animal Guy in Zanesville, Ohio had just gotten out of One Year in the Pokey because he had been in possession of an unregistered firearm. Which is a simple procedural matter. But he still spent one year of his life in jail.
A whole van full of "illegally transferred" firearms and ammunition is fodder for the BATF. And the newspapers.
And I wouldn't just go to an FFL dealer for advice on this issue, either. As a former FFL holder-dealer, I can safely say that I and most of my FFL colleagues did not know the fine points and nuances of firearms transfer law in any great depth. Proof?? Just listen to the BS sessions and conversations between a group of FFL dealers. Opinions range all over the map.
Just some thoughts for your consideration.
sfg
NENick:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on October 20, 2011, 08:02:30 AM ---Dark 45........
One very direct approach to this situation might be to start with a complete list [by manufacturer, model, caliber, etc.] of all the firearms that you intend to move from California to Nebraska.
Then call a local BATF office--maybe in both states--make appointments, go sit down with BATF agents and determine clearly, exactly, and precisely which detailed steps need to be followed in order to transfer them from California to Nebraska.
Yes--of course--you'll be dealing with the Evil Authorities and giving them disclosures that we'd all rather not disclose.
But--infinitely better to do so before the move takes place than afterwards. If you have to deal with them after the move takes place because federal and/or state laws have been broken, even inadvertently, then............Bye, Bye Guns. And maybe Bye, Bye you.
Prime Example: The Exotic Animal Guy in Zanesville, Ohio had just gotten out of One Year in the Pokey because he had been in possession of an unregistered firearm. Which is a simple procedural matter. But he still spent one year of his life in jail.
A whole van full of "illegally transferred" firearms and ammunition is fodder for the BATF. And the newspapers.
And I wouldn't just go to an FFL dealer for advice on this issue, either. As a former FFL holder-dealer, I can safely say that I and most of my FFL colleagues did not know the fine points and nuances of firearms transfer law in any great depth. Proof?? Just listen to the BS sessions and conversations between a group of FFL dealers. Opinions range all over the map.
Just some thoughts for your consideration.
sfg
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This all makes sense... unless he wants to walk them across the Mexican border. In that case, it hardly seems necessary.
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