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AAllen:
Would I recommend that anyone do what was done here, my opinion does not matter. The decision to interseed in a criminal act against another (non family) is very personal, I will let the CCW instructors discuss that.
That said from this article (based upon the shooters story only) we can see two differences between Minnesota Law and Nebraska. First there is no duty to retreat, they have a self defence law that is working. Next in Minnesota a "Citizen" can pursue and make an arrest for a criminal act, this is another thing we can not due in Nebraska.
We of course are working on the Victim Protection Act and it is a priority for the NFOA, but should we be taking a moment to look at citizen arrest laws. I would not want to try to bring it up at the same time as the Victim Protection Act but is there something that we should be looking at for down the road in that?
If this guy's story checks out he has broken no laws and would not face any charges, though I believe Minnesota has a Grand Jury system so there will be a hearing there anyway, but if the evidence shows this guy's story is true the prosecutor most likely would recommend no charges.
omaharj:
Wow, that's a situation I don't want to be in. I believe everyone is responsible for their actions and the BG and permit holder (would vigilante be a misnomer?)made choices that will (or did) affect them the rest of their lives.
Whether or not it is justified or legal, I'm not sure I chase a BG after the threat is over. I hope I have the self discipline to stop and think clearly. It was my understanding from my ccw class, you can't go looking,it has to happen. When the BG left the scene,imminent threat was over. Time to be a good witness,perhaps a cell phone call to 911 might help guide the cops. I'm sure I can have a long, happy life, having never "taken out" a BG. RJ
DaveB:
Had he been killed by the thief, the news would have reported how a CCW holder was stupid for chasing a criminal. And that civilians have no business having guns. There also would be no need for an investigation.
Glad it turned out the way it should have, the training must have worked. Hope he risked his life for more than a tube of lipstick and a handkerchief like my grandma carried.
HuskerXDM:
All that's necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing.
-Edmund Burke
dark 45:
i can not say i would or would not do as that man did, i would like to think i would. i think he did what was right, what the laws say may disagree. the things that would be in my mind being weighed would not include legality at that point, it would be risk of self, worth of said risk, and my duty as a US citizen.
we all have a human right to and i may say even slight obligation to help others. the police are paid to take on the responsibility of every citizen full time and are paid for not having the time to go into another career. the laws may claim different, that dose not make them right. i believe the fact people do nothing is the reason the world is the way it is. can someone outlaw kindness? or duty to self and others? who says that just because someone might be a mechanic or IT that they can not provide help and safety to others?
my ex chased a robber out of a store she was working at, people just watched. lazy self serving people feeling self entitled. i was rather upset no one helped her, what if this person who was robbed and hit with a pistol was your wife or daughter? what if this man would target your wife or daughter next? i witnessed a man walk after a girl cussing and screaming, he then grabbed her. by the time i got there he was hitting her dragging her away, the entire time people across the street just watch as i alone took this man to the ground. later when the police arrive 20 minutes later they found he had a knife on his person with warrants for assault and rape. who knows what i stopped. i was detained and questioned but i was lucky enough for the cop just to take my statement and give me an "atta boy" but i could not just sit and let this man take her, someones daughter, to do as he pleased. when did this world become so lazy and afraid?
again i can not say i would do as that man did in that situation, firearms being involved, i hope i would. i hope allot of others might stand to the face of situations like this with the courage he showed. it might be a purse this time but as they grow confident in little crimes they escalate. stop them now and maybe stop a senseless rape or murder later, maybe even during another robbery.
just the way i see things.
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