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Man inadvertently shoots self in grocery store parking lot and dies

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PhilK:

--- Quote from: NE Bull on November 15, 2011, 09:40:19 AM ---If I do carry sans holster it is usually just to the convenience store right behind our apartment, or to the car or P.O. box after dark. Even then it is usually the P-64 decocked and locked, and/or without a round in the chamber in the pocket.  I know not tactically efficient, but with my children around, I don't want to be "that Guy".

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Don't carry that P-64 anywhere with the safety off - those bad boys will discharge if the hammer is struck or pulled back halfway and released.

http://www.p64resource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3942

http://www.p64resource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4378&sid=ec3dcff9b2e19acb6cc36a0f2b5fcf6d

dcjulie:
I can't imaging carrying on my person without having the gun in a holster.   You are tempting fate way too much.  Hard to feel sorry for someone in this situation, too. :(   I feel bad that he died from his wound, but carrying with a round in the chamber without the trigger guard covered is asking for trouble.

Dan W:
I wonder what he was actually doing to complete that long trigger pull that all Glocks are (in)famous for. It's not like you just bump the trigger on a Glock and it fires.

A lot of movement is required to take up the normal slop in the safe action system, release the firing pin block, and finally let the firing pin fly.

Not to detract from the "always use a holster the covers the trigger guard" rule, I just don't get how one can fiddle around with a gun pointed at your jewels enough to make it fire, oblivious to the impending doom

DanClrk51:
This is very sad. That poor family.


--- Quote from: NE Bull on November 15, 2011, 09:40:19 AM ---If I do carry sans holster it is usually just to the convenience store right behind our apartment, or to the car or P.O. box after dark. Even then it is usually the P-64 decocked and locked, and/or without a round in the chamber in the pocket.  I know not tactically efficient, but with my children around, I don't want to be "that Guy".

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Yeah, I own a P-64 as well and have only carried it on occasion in the back pocket of my jeans. The times that I did carry it, the loaded magazine was in the gun but I didn't chamber a round. I think thats the safest way to carry if your not going to use a holster. Not using a holster with a cocked and loaded gun is insanity and to those of you carrying cocked and loaded in the waistband without holster: YOUR NUTS!

I agree with Dan W. here. He must have been seriously messing with the gun for it to fire. I really question if he had a holster or a low quality one at that. I'm glad the police captain used the opportunity to educate the public and not use the story as a forum to bash guns themselves.

bkoenig:
Sadly this will probably just further the notion that guns "just go off" by themselves.  I agree, he must have been messing with it.

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