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NE Bull:
Yes Dan, but could we stop at just CCW or do we allow all legally owned firearms, handguns, rifles, shotguns on campus dorms also? For self defense? (I would like to think Bubba Joe should be able to keep his .30-30 and 12 ga. around during hunting seasons. ) Actually that would probably be the best scenerio that only CHP holders be allowed weapons for self defense on campus, but could we restrict others in that way? (and not to mention the NE zero alcohol with CCW would put a damper on social life ;) )
I have a (soon to be) 12 year old daughter who, too soon, will be headed to college and I would love to think she would be able to tote more than pepper spray for protection, but how do we make that happen without the party animal next door showing off his pistol and shooting through the wall?
dcjulie:
I would think that any student, 21 and older who goes through the requirements to get a CCW permit will be just as responsible as the rest of the CCW holders. If you want to carry, you alter your lifestyle such that you are able to carry and not in jeopardy of losing your permit to carry (and possibly your right to own a gun).
I am not a criminal, but I would think that any campus would be a hot spot for them to go to. Unarmed kids and the possibility of lots of electronics in a relatively small environment. I would hate to have to live on campus these days. Also, many colleges not only forbid guns, they also forbid any type of standard weapon, so you have to be a bit inventive in order to protect yourself.
rluening:
Interesting:
http://www.omaha.com/article/20111119/NEWS97/711199858/0#three-robbed-in-uno-dormitory
The victims admitted the robber took their weed.
Smart.
/rl
justsomeguy:
--- Quote ---I have a (soon to be) 12 year old daughter who, too soon, will be headed to college and I would love to think she would be able to tote more than pepper spray for protection, but how do we make that happen without the party animal next door showing off his pistol and shooting through the wall?
--- End quote ---
Hold criminals responsible for their actions. A person's right to do ANYTHING they want stops when it hurts someone else.
bk09:
I may be able to have an input on this considering I am a student at UNL, and actually looking to transfer to UNO next year... I have been on the fence with this topic for 2 reasons.
1. Drunk "kids" and firearms is a no no.
2. Some "kids" aren't responsible enough to store it properly and that could very well lead to theft.
I lived in a fraternity just off of east campus, and technically it was university property but my house was in a secluded neighborhood so we tended to have a little more freedom. Lots of farm kids in it and when hunting season rolls around there are all kinds of rifles and shotguns stashed in the house out of plain sight. And living in a fraternity you see how much people can really drink and since these kids all grew up with guns there has never been an incident where they did anything with a gun while intoxicated because they know how to use them. However there are "kids" like me who were never brought up with guns who go to college and want to start buying guns. I owned a few guns while living in the fraternity and even began reloading my own ammo there (until some liberal thought it was dangerous and I had to stop). However most of us who had guns had them stashed in a closet somewhere not very secure, so the chance of a mishap is more likely.
Some of us young folk can be responsible with guns but the kid who has no friends in college could be the next loon to go off the deep end and start shooting people. I love the idea of concealed carry on campus, my chemistry tests are at night and when I'm walking across campus to my car I would feel more comfortable if I could carry (when I turn 21 in March). Seeing people on campus in my age demographic makes me feel that a large majority of 18 year olds wouldn't be responsible enough to carry anyways. Plus there is the problem of not being old enough to buy a handgun at 18. I support carrying on campus but if it were to come about the people who do it should have to take a course on how to properly store a gun and have pretty heavy consequences if not done so properly. Granted the majority of 21 year olds not in a sorority or a fraternity don't live on campus anyways.
I will probably get some heat along the lines of, "if they have to have it locked in a safe secured in a night stand how can they get to it fast to defend themselves against a robbery". That risk is not as high as some drunk minor with no experience with guns seeing an unsecured firearm and trying to show it off.
In conclusion, I support carry on campus for those qualified to do so with proper training through the university and/or police department on proper gun storage. There are booths around UNL that you can hit a button at if you feel nervous about someone loitering around but that would only bring an unarmed security guard to your help a few minutes later, I would feel better knowing I can better defend myself.
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