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What do You Carry?
sjwsti:
--- Quote from: armed and humorous on December 31, 2011, 10:50:55 AM ---Most of the time, for its lightness and concealability, I carry my S&W 340SC. I have a good ankle holster for it (De Santis 044 S1), but I prefer a pocket or my Galco paddle holster if I can wear a long shirt or jacket for cover. It will fit just about anywhere, even a jeans pocket, and printing isn't usually a problem. It's not something I enjoy shooting (quite a kick with .357 Mag 140 gr FTX Hornady Leverevolution ammo), but it has stopping power if not capacity. I figure the most likely situation where I might need it would be at very close range and a single attacker.
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Hmmm, sounds like an idea for our next training video. Deploying from a pocket or ankle holster while dealing with a single attacker at very close range. I should also record the guys faces when I bring it up. :'(
- Shawn
armed and humorous:
sjwsti:
Are you attempting to make fun of me? If the goal here is to make fun of other people, there is plenty of ammunition. I fully realize an ankle holster is not the best method of carry for self-defense. Still, I have faith in my own ability to recognize a situation and adjust if necessary. I'm not saying that I could draw my gun from an ankle holster when attacked by surprise from a few feet away. I'm saying that I carry that way when I want to carry concealed and appropriate clothing limits my choices. As for carrying in a pocket or paddle holster, do you have a suggestion as to what would be significantly better?
sjwsti:
--- Quote from: armed and humorous on December 31, 2011, 04:07:52 PM ---sjwsti:
Are you attempting to make fun of me? If the goal here is to make fun of other people, there is plenty of ammunition. I fully realize an ankle holster is not the best method of carry for self-defense. Still, I have faith in my own ability to recognize a situation and adjust if necessary. I'm not saying that I could draw my gun from an ankle holster when attacked by surprise from a few feet away. I'm saying that I carry that way when I want to carry concealed and appropriate clothing limits my choices. As for carrying in a pocket or paddle holster, do you have a suggestion as to what would be significantly better?
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Not making fun at all, sorry that it sounded that way. If you search around you will see that myself and a small group of like minded gluttons for punishment will occasionally video a training session or two and post it to this forum. We do this in order to pass on the lessons learned from full contact FOF training. Very often we find that something that sounds good on the internet, in a magazine or even taught in a class falls quite short when tested in this manner.
We are always looking to challenge ourselves by doing what is difficult and you mentioned a couple of common carry methods that we haven't tested FOF.
Truth be told, given the right circumstances the type of holster you have or even the gun that you carry makes no difference at all. But since I cant predict the future I prepare for the worst case scenario and choose equipment that will serve me best in any circumstance and train like my life will depend on it.
You agree that drawing from an ankle holster will only be possible under the right circumstances. A physical attack at close range isn't one of them I'm betting. But talk is cheap, we will actually do it and then video it for your amusement and you can take from it what you want. As far as pocket carry, have you attempted to get a gun out of your pocket while actually being punched, grabbed and thrown to the ground? I haven't, but I'm going to. You will get to see how it turns out, good or bad.
- Shawn
FarmerRick:
Carrying any gun, anywhere on you, is better than carrying nothing at all. If an ankle holster is what you are comfortable with(when the occasion calls for it), go for it!
I usually have an LCP in my pocket, but am trying to find a good IWB holster for the CZ 2075 RAMI I picked up a while back. The CZ is so small, I can carry it in the pocket of some of my jeans nearly as easily as the LCP, but need to find a thin pocket holster before I do that.
BTW: Welcome back, A&H... the discussions around here were getting a little stale without your unique perspective and no-b.s. posts. Healthy(and respectful) debate is what this forum is all about. 8)
armed and humorous:
Shawn and Rick:
Thanks.
I watched some videos recently showing the difficulty of drawing and firing a weapon while under attack from close range. To me it only reinforced the idea that awareness of your surroundings, avoiding risky situations, and having a plan are probably more important than what gun you carry, how you carry it, or how much training you have. I'm sure training helps considerably, but from what I saw, even trained individuals didn't fare very well when it came to a sudden attack by a man with a knife or other deadly weapon from close range (21 feet or less). Most of the subjects eventually got their gun out and fired (dummy rounds of course), but had their attackers' weapons been real, they most likely would have died from the wounds inflicted upon them, and likely would never have gotten off a shot. This was in a situation where they knew what was coming and were ready for it, and they had their weapons where they were easily accessible.
By the way, I have a leather jacket I wear quite a bit. It has a pocket that was meant for a cell phone, but it works very well with my S&W340. Outside of already having the gun in my hand, I don't think any kind of holster would make drawing it any faster than I can get it from this pocket. It wouldn't have the retention of a good holster, but I seldom run, jump, or do summersaults any more, and I don't expect that to be a problem. :)
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