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Voter ID bill needs your support.
AAllen:
I have had several conversations with Senators and many have asked me of my opinion on this issue. The first thing I point out is I/We are a single issue org. and as their lobbyist/president I stick to that issue. But I find it interesting that those that are complaining that the requirement of an ID that the state will give away for free to vote is a violation of someones rights, are the people that push to charge hundreds of dollars for a permit to carry a firearm, and wants to limit when where and who may even posses firearms.
A couple of the Senators on the above list told me their problem with the bill is not that it causes an undo hardship, but because the amendment allows for a non photo ID that can easily be copied or forged to be used. There is also an issue with the DMV being ready to verify all the ID's that may need to be during polling. Apparently there is a new system in place at the DMV that is a couple of years from being able to handle this with photo ID's.
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: armed and humorous on January 19, 2012, 02:13:13 PM ---I don't know how important it is that we have this voter ID bill, but I'm certainly not opposed to it. I don't believe it creates any significant hardship on anyone either. I'm not going to look it up, but it seems to me that it is a law that a person has to have some sort of ID on them anyway (state, local, ?). Seems to me I've heard of people being arrested because they had no ID, or money on them (vagrancy). I don't know if it's still on the books, but at one time in some places, you had to have at least one dollar on your person, or you were considered a vagrant. Weird, huh? :)
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There is no law requiring a person to carry ID.
What is this, Nazi Germany?: "Papiere, bitte."
The problem with this bill is that it arguably runs afoul of all sorts of case law relating to poll taxes and other barriers that prevent people from voting. If this bill passes, it will result in a bunch of legal fees for taxpayers and probably won't be on the books for very long.
But this bill won't pass. I'll give good odds on that.
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: DanClrk51 on January 22, 2012, 08:07:18 PM ---This is a much needed bill. When I first started voting back in 2004 I was baffled/surprised/appalled when I went to the polls to vote and they didn't ask me for my ID. All anyone needs is a name and an address. Someone could impersonate me and vote in my stead.
Voter fraud is a serious problem in this country and it needs to be stopped. This bill is very reasonable and should have been passed decades ago.
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Could you point to a historical instance of voter fraud in Nebraska that you believe this bill would have prevented? Just one would be fine.
FarmerRick:
--- Quote from: CitizenClark on January 29, 2012, 04:22:10 AM ---Could you point to a historical instance of voter fraud in Nebraska that you believe this bill would have prevented? Just one would be fine.
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I'm pretty sure it slips through the cracks most times and never even gets investigated... but here's one for you:
http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Suttle_Supporters_Bus_Homelss_To_Vote__113390539.html
armed and humorous:
Something you might think about if you feel this is a fix looking for a problem. If someone goes to the polling place and pretends to be some other registered voter, how will anyone ever know if the true registered voter never shows up to vote? The only way this type of voter fraud would be detected is if the fraudulent voter showed up claiming to be someone else and that person had already signed in and voted, or the real registered voter shows up later and someone had already signed in using his name. There is a sizeable percentage of registered voters who do not vote in every election, so the potential, at least, is there for this type of thing. If someone were really trying, it wouldn't be hard to vote many times in a single election using the names of people they knew wouldn't be voting. I'm not saying this happens, or happens a lot. I'm just saying it could happen and there would be no way of detecting it (without this voter ID bill). So, just because you don't find factual evidence of voter fraud, it doesn't mean there isn't any (or couldn't be any).
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