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Why no handloads for the class?
bk09:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on January 26, 2012, 01:29:08 PM ---BRADKOLL:
Your Reloads are Pristine Gems of Perfection........
Mine are Entirely Adequate for Most Target Shooting and Practice Purposes,
But.........The Other Guy??? He's Not Always as Proficient or as Careful At Making Reloads As He Should Be.
So Let's Minimize as Many Dangerous Variables in CHP Handgun Qualification Shooting as We Can.
Any CHP Instructor Will Tell You That There are PLENTY!!!!!
sfg
PS - Why Leave UNL to transfer to UNO in the Fall????? Just Kurious
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Never really liked it here. Classes are usually taught by teachers assistants or some grad student who could care less and wants to make an extra buck. Pride in my fraternity kept me here but when excessive amounts of people started getting DUI's or in trouble with the law and lost respect for others and their belongings I decided it isn't worth it. Plus several funeral homes I asked to job shadow at shot me down for no good reason (want to be a funeral director) and I have a lead at one of the funeral homes in Omaha.
Well that stinks that people who don't take time to develop loads for their guns and take time to test them ruin it for the rest of us. Oh well I guess I will poison my J frame to be with factory loads. :(
Chris Z:
Sorry I didn't see this earlier..... haven't been able to spend much time on the forums browsing.
I ask for folks to bring factory ammo, because we have an extremely busy day and I don't have time to jack around with someone's gun and ammo that doesn't work.
Has anyone brought reloads to the class that were quality and had not issues? Of course? Did I notice? Maybe, maybe not! Did I say anything??? Only if the darn stuff doesn't work :-)
Gunscribe:
My sentiments exactly Chris.
Having to play nursemaid to, or make special allowances for, one (or more) student/s when their whiz bang super accurate always dependable reloaded ammo doesn't work takes away from the other students who are their to learn.
If you paid a lot of good hard earned Yankee dollars to be a student in a class with one of those "I know what the hell I'm doing at the reloading bench I don't know why it is jamming up today it never has before experts" you would be pissed off that I have to spend most of my time molly coddling some yahoo who doesn't have enough respect for his fellow students to make sure his junk works before coming to class.
And please don't tell me that is the gun and or ammo you will be carrying on the street.
Husker_Fan:
I reload and test my loads for function in my guns. I also have shot with folks who had a terrible time with jams and it turned out they just followed a "recipe" from a website.
Reloading is an art, and you have to make sure your powder charge is safe, but strong enough to cycle your gun. Cartridge overall length must allow for proper headspacing, fit in the magazine, and feed properly.
I've had loads that I tweaked in one way or another and now I have detailed notes on what loads work as well as factory in my handguns. Others, not so much.
SemperFiGuy:
PEOPLE GET STRANGE ON THE RANGE
>Had two revolver shooters doing CHP range qualification Saturday. Both shot OK. But the hands of both were shaking seriously every time they pushed the ejector rods on their handguns. They could barely clear the cylinders after each string of fire. These were grown men; experienced shooters. But somehow they lose it at the range.
>I've had Muzzle Sweepers on the line. Way too many. Shooters who turn around while on the firing line and turn their handguns with them. Endangering the whole line.
>Had people show up with Ruger Single Sixes, no spare cylinders. [Try to line up the cylinders to eject the empty cases in the dark recesses of a firing range!!!]
>Had people show up with M1911s in .45ACP. Brought .45GAP ammo. "Cabela's sold it to me...."
>Had people show up with Dirty, Dirty, Dirty Gunked-up handguns that would barely cycle. [Not Glocks. Glocks work dirty. Maybe even better dirty; takes up some of the dimensional slop.]
>Had Limp Wristers galore with resulting FTEs, stovepipes, whatever.
>Had shooters show up with a baggie of handloads, all with bulged cases. [Were they ever resized?? If not, how did they get the old primers out??]
>Had Just About Everything Else that Can be Had in the Way of Bad Range Practice.
In the meantime, while all the above is going on, the Good Shooters have to stand by at the Ready Position, waiting for the Problem(s) to be Solved.
With all the above Joys of Shooting, problems with Sloppy Handloads are Just Not Needed. Nor Wanted. Nor allowed.
Show up with a clean Glock, Winchester White Box Factory Ammo, Safe Shooting Habits, and Quickly Qualify.
No Handloads/Reloads during Certification/Range Qualification, please.
sfg
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