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Why no handloads for the class?
bk09:
--- Quote from: SemperFiGuy on February 07, 2012, 11:19:19 AM ---PEOPLE GET STRANGE ON THE RANGE
>Had two revolver shooters doing CHP range qualification Saturday. Both shot OK. But the hands of both were shaking seriously every time they pushed the ejector rods on their handguns. They could barely clear the cylinders after each string of fire. These were grown men; experienced shooters. But somehow they lose it at the range.
>I've had Muzzle Sweepers on the line. Way too many. Shooters who turn around while on the firing line and turn their handguns with them. Endangering the whole line.
>Had people show up with Ruger Single Sixes, no spare cylinders. [Try to line up the cylinders to eject the empty cases in the dark recesses of a firing range!!!]
>Had people show up with M1911s in .45ACP. Brought .45GAP. "Cabela's sold it to me...."
>Had people show up with Dirty, Dirty, Dirty Gunked-up handguns that would barely cycle. [Not Glocks. Glocks work dirty. Maybe even better dirty; takes up some of the dimensional slop.]
>Had Limp Wristers galore with resulting FTEs, stovepipes, whatever.
>Had shooters show up with a baggie of handloads, all with bulged cases. [Were they ever resized?? If not, how did they get the old primers out??]
>Had Just About Everything Else that Can be Had in the Way of Bad Range Practice.
In the meantime, while all the above is going on, the Good Shooters have to stand by at the Ready Position, waiting for the Problem(s) to be Solved.
With all the above Joys of Shooting, problems with Sloppy Handloads are Just Not Needed. Nor Wanted. Nor allowed.
Show up with a clean Glock, Winchester White Box Factory Ammo, Safe Shooting Habits, and Quickly Qualify.
No Handloads/Reloads during Certification/Range Qualification, please.
sfg
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I actually have planned to show up with a Glock and Winchester White Box. Guess I will have another hundred pieces of once shot brass after the class.
Lmbass14:
Agree with Brad. Even if I did reload, (wish I could, but there is SOMEONE in our house that thinks that reloading is a bad thing), I wouldn't just due to being respectful to the other students. There to learn, not to try out that brand new firearm that has never been shot with reloads. It's worth the little extra money for a box of WWB or Federal.
SemperFiGuy:
THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET ABOUT RELOADING
Unless a shooter shoots a Whole Big Bunch of ammo each year, reloading may well be more expensive that buying the same caliber in quantity by watching the store specials and the sales.
Because, you gotta have....
>Reloading Press
>Reloading Dies in Your Caliber(s)
>Shellholders [Not sold w/Reloading Dies]
>Case Tumbler or Some Kinda Case Cleaning Device
>Case Lube [Spray and Tub]
>Chronograph
>Reloading Handbooks [Hornady, Lee, Speer, Lyman, and Others of Choice]
>Precision Micrometer
>Various Other Gauges [Headspace, Go/No-Go, etc., etc.]
>Precision Powder Scale
>Reloading Bench
>Swivel Chair w/Rollers
>Primer Loading Tool
>Case Trimmer and Accessories
>Stuck Case Remover [Yes, You Do!!]
>An Entire Whole Bunch of Little and Medium Sized Specialty Gizmo Tools That Cost Way More Than They are Worth
>A Radio [To Listen to Armed America While Reloading]
>Storage Cabinets, Bins, Containers, Whatever
>A Room or Space Dedicated to All of the Above Stuff, Including Light and Heat.
>Total Lack of Concern for the Value of Your Own Time on a Per Hour Basis
And You Still Gotta Buy Bullets, Powder, and Primers. Plus occasional lots and batches of cartridge brass.
So when you tote up all these so-called hidden costs [You Have to Hide Them From Your Wife], the reloaded stuff is probably premium price. For that price, you could shoot Self-Defense Hollow Points down range for practice.
With all the above, I'm still gonna do it. Did some already this morning. Gonna do some more tonight.
Can't help it.
sfg
JimP:
--- Quote ---I've never met anyone who has had an accident with a reload. Have you?
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I know 2 guys on this board who have had Ka-booms with reloads ......
Other than the "taking others time" thing (and I have had an issue during one of the IDPA mini-matches they used to have at a local indoor rangewith ammo I bought at the range ) and the liability thing, there is also the idea that holding a class at your range might help sell some ammo ...... allowing reloads negates this possibility. I don't have a problem with it- that's a business decision and if the market supports it, then it is the right one.
Chris Z:
We show a Glock 22 in our CCW class that was blown to pieces with reloads........... By someone who "knows what he is doing".......... (no sarcasm, he is a friend and fellow firearms Instructor). He just had a bad day one day and accidentally double charged a round.
By the way it wasn't one of the internet hyped "unsupported Glock barrel", it was a brand new KKM match barrel. If I could figure out how to post a picture here, I will post it
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